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Just to be clear, in case someone comes to this thread on page 3 and draws the wrong conclusion about the rental multiplier. The rental multiplier does not set the property value. It is just a crude indicator to the level of property prices, i.e. overpriced (bubble) or under priced (depressed). I have heard figures of 200-300x being used to describe a sensible level, but that is of course subjective. I have only heard it used in this way, for the domestic property market.
As for leasing values of commercial property, that is a totally different market. People buy commercial property with the aim to earn/rent it out usually, and not as an investment. About 5 years ago we were quoted commercial property rents in Kunming (not in prime locations) that were higher than they were in comparable districts (not prime locations) in Shanghai. I cannot suggest reasons for this particular form of madness, except just dumb avarice.

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This is good news.
I think that in the past they were looking to remediate without major infrastructure development, and the ongoing costs of running any treatment facilities.
In fairness, it would have been really good to have achieved this biologically, but I think that we have to accept that if the problem is created on an industrial scale, then perhaps the solution must be as well.

In addition to the problems of urbanisation (concentrated population = high volume/density sewage) and industrial outflows, I once read that part of the problem was the 'mining' of the phosphate rich soil (for phosphate extraction industry) was causing loose (phosphate rich) sediment to be washed into the lake.

I have noticed in the past week, after a prolonged warm spell, the water along Haigeng Daba has turned green again. This has happened almost overnight, as it does. This will be happening across the lake. Hopefully with treatment plants along the lake coming on line, the water will be better next year.

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@proproots
This may or may not be of interest. The International Centre for Conservation Education (ICCE) based in UK, did a lot of work in Africa using traditional drama, song, and puppets, for env ed purposes. There may be some transferable lessons.
I'm not trying to teach you to suck eggs, just adding my 2 cents.

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A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.

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Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.

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In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.