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Forums > Living in Kunming > Keep Calm and Carry on

OK, we have heard all sides of a particular argument and have come full circle now. The discussion is coming up with nothing new, apart from speculative attempts to debunk sources, and data.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Keep Calm and Carry on

As the original question about where Wechat information can be found was on this thread, the response also belongs on this thread. The question falls into both camps. Some convergence is inevitable.

In all forum threads there is often deviation from the intended purpose of the original poster. That is normal. The discussion has not deviated to the point of needing tidying up at this stage.

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Leaving it up to the stakeholders is what happened in Lijiang. The role of government as regulator is important, but where the government is also a stakeholder, and individuals government officials have personal stakes, it takes the 'poacher gamekeeper' paradigm to a whole new level.

Heart of Darkness may have been adapted by Coppola for the movie Apocalypse Now, but it is far from an Asia classic.
The book is about a journey up the Congo River. I would say an Africa classic.

China can afford this project, Laos cannot. Chinese companies would benefit to a far greater amount (total) than would Laos companies.
If you think of possible cost of the project, and the benefits in increased tax revenues etc. for government. For Laos it will probably never pay back. 60% of GDP could bankrupt a country.
For China the sums involved are chump change.
Perhaps a more equitable solution would be for China to 'gift' the infrastructure, and then earn money from leasing rail time/space to Laos train companies. Or even for China Rail to run services on an exclusive basis for an agreed number of years in the first instance. If you want bullet trains the rolling stock will be Chinese through trains anyway.

It is sad is a facility is lost, but I think the fault lies with the developer, don't be too quick to blame the 100 local residents.
The business owners also seem to be placing the blame squarely at the door of the developer.

The residents were quite used to the usual antics of Wenhua Xiang. It is the new development that has changed things. It seems like things are outside of the law.

In Chenggong you can not put a sign out on the street or the Chengguan will confiscate it and levy a fine. Even though there is a street market.

I have seem the same thing happen in other cities. An area is developed and the developer does not get certain planning permissions for activities on the sidewalk. In Zhengzhou there was a place with a 15m wide sidewalk, and the street was full of restaurants that had outside tables, and still there was room for car to drive up and down the sidewalk. It was soon stopped.

Same happened to areas of Shanghai.

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A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.

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Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.

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In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.