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Forums > Living in Kunming > Crazy car accident

Bit of an unecessary comment at the end there.

Anyway, back to the subject. Sorry Tonyaod for misunderstanding your comment - we have all acknowledged that the driver of the car is in the weakest position.

To John I would say that if the injuries were minor and the insurance will cover most of it, then you are best off trying to forget about the injustice of the other party's illegal actions. I campaigned for a long time about the injustice of me having to fork out tens of thousands for someone's illegal actions - we don't have handrails on our stairs at home, if a thief broke in and fell down the stairs would I be liable? According to this law I would.

Anyway, the only route you would have if you wanted to overturn the decision is to challenge the traffic police' decision. This would probably cost you more than the incidient in the first place.

It sounds like the injuries weren't bad, in which case you should just let it play out and let insurance cover it. Your main worry is the death threats, but again, they are very much likely to be hollow and for intimidaiton purposes to try and get you to offer some kind of compensation.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Crazy car accident

John, I was in an accident recently albeit not as crazy as your incident, however as a result I've come to learn a fair bit about the law regarding these situations.

Mine was a lot simpler, a scooter hit the back of my car whilst I was turning right. Despite it hitting the back of my car it was deemed to be 70% my fault - merely because I am a car and he is a scooter and I was turning. Unfortunately I don't think Tonyaod is right when he says that car drivers are protected over scooter drivers - this seems to certainly not be the case as the stance is taken that cars are 'flesh wrapped in metal' and scooters are 'metal wrapped in flesh' and so everything is done to protect the scooters/bikes/peds.

In my incident, the only reason that they assumed 30% of the blame was because they had an illegal passenger on the back. Unfortunately she fell off and broke her arm and despite her being an illegal passenger we are still liable for our 70% of her hospital costs which stacked up to 4 WAN by the end.

What I'm saying is that unfortunately it seems that the illegality of the others actions seem immaterial, and as a car you are likely to be deemed more liable. On the scene the police should have given you a police report - they have to do this. In it it should lay out the situation of the accident and apportion blame as they deem appropriate. (As in my case 70-30).

This blame division has been critical for me as the 30% they were liable for stopped them taking the piss at the hospital and getting every last thing checked. For you it sounds like no injury occurred - did they go to hospital immediately after the accident? If not then officially no injury took place and you are not liable for anything.

My incident is still being sorted, 1 year on, reasonably amicably, although I too received death threats and injury threats from them afterwards. Your situation sounds a lot more set-up than mine, and the intimidation sounds a lot more organised. In my case it was more emotional intimidation so we could more easily ignore it.

From my experience if you have a police report, and even if the report says you were 100% responsible, you should only be liable for repairs to their scooter/your car which your insurance company will cover. If there was injury it gets more complicated, but your insurance will still cover it. DO NOT GIVE ANY OTHER MONEY AT ALL to these people. Various sums were demanded from us but we refused and in the end there is not much they can do. We are paying back via our insurance everything we legally have to and its all agreed between us and the injured, although ridiculously it is still going to court as the driver is refusing to pay his share to the injured passenger.

As for the death threats, its horrible and very unpleasant, but I would be very surprised if they weren't hollow. Its horrible when things like this happen, but you should try not to let it affect your feelings about kunming as a whole - these things happen everywhere in the world. One of the biggest things I love about Kunming is how much safer it feels than the west, but I can understand that incidents like this can shake that feeling somewhat.

If you want any more details about how our situation was resolved hit me back. It might be useful for you as a case study.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > looking for cello teacher

chinese girl who speaks excellent english is looking for a cello teacher in Kunming. only at beginner stage at the moment but wants to learn more. has own cello.

reply to me on this if you can help, or have any suggestions.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Help with marriage visas for foreign countries

Danmairen - to help with your questions above, it costs around 6000-7000RMB I think, but depends how strong your case is to as to whether they'll take you on or not. they work on no win no fee i think, so they won't take cases that are too difficult. they basically organise everything for you, nothing like obtaining 'other' papers that you don't have or anything, only helping prepare all the information, letters etc. to make your case as strong as possible. but very reliable and very good.

i'm surprised they don't do the US as they're based in New York, but maybe its just too hard to get in, i don't know.

if you need more info try contacting Philip on their company email - info@marriagevisahelp.com

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Help with marriage visas for foreign countries

Just thought there might be people out there who have found Mr or Mrs right in the form of a local Chinese resident and are wondering the best way to start the process of getting a visa for their partner to go to their home country.

I have been through this process and would hugely recommend the agent I used to do this. marriagevisahelp.com - they were professional from start to finish and took a huge amount of the stress out of the process.

they also recently helped us get a travel visa for us to return to my home country for xmas.

it does cost to get an agent, but i think its definitely worth it. i think it certainly makes the difference between rejection and acceptance of an application.

hit me back if you want to know more about this, having been through it for two different visa types I could give some advice. alternatively contact the agents I mentioned above.

put it this way, I was happy enough with their service to post this!

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