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I was with my wife in the Hofbraeuhaus in Munich and that's for sure not your cheapest option.

1Mass [ 1l mug] beer- 8 Euros=67 RMB

Roast pork [massive couldn't finish] 9.90 Euro = 83 RMB

Pork knuckle- 11.50Euro = 96 RMB

we spend 37 Euro= 310RMB there, filled and drunk. In the city center happy as you can get, strolling through the old town. Tourist heaven. lol

That's not the cheapest nor is it necessarily the best. But it's a tourist Mecca and we were sitting in this nice century old place with stereotypical but partially [accurate] German cultural influences, for the same price I have a hot pot in a mall or some run down building with absolutely no charme at all in China.

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@ Alien

..." but it's certainly easier to get a reasonable meal much cheaper in an ordinary Chinese restaurant than it is in, say, the US."

But yeah that was my point, Germany is cheaper than Kunming.
170 kuai is about 20 Euros, for that fine dining is off limits but I could go and have good pizza in a nicer Ristorante. And most definitely local food would be in the range. A local dish in Germany is about 7-9 Euro. Times two and you still have room for a half liter Hefeweizen around 3.50Euro.

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@alien
I was talking about a proper restaurant where you order proper clean dished, none of the snack joints.
Most of the local food around here are about snacks.
But even if you go to a better Yunnan or Kunming restaurant each dish is about 20 to 30 RMB, take a few beers, which are always around 10-15 kuai and you are over 100 RMB just by having "3" dishes and 2 beers.

The example was a hot-pot joint we never made it under 170RMB. You already pay 30 kuai just for the broth.

I mean it's worth it, that's not the point but in general Chinese proper restaurants are not a bit cheaper than western diners.

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Mmkunmingteacher
I think you should take it easy a little.

I don't think this Chinese culture crusade is leading anywhere.

So does a culture, -it goes it's natural way.
Chinese are tired of their own culture and I can't blame them.

So I dunno if what you promote isn't equally bad.

What's the difference if you force a western culture on Chinese or Chinese cultures on foreigners.

Chinese culture is open for foreign changes and that is new in the history of Chinese sinocentricism.

All of China's historical problems came from xenophobia overtaxing, ripping off, cheating each and every foreign initiative in the past.

The reaction to it was mean and terrible beyond believe but China is using the same colonialism on other countries, as well.

See; Vietnam, Malaysia, Taiwan and the provinces I cannot name here.

So I think we aren't so different after all.

No culture can be kept alive artificially and that's it.

So if China changes and they dearly need. Judging the chin. citizens that actually risk the big step over the ocean, -most of them are compelled and welcome many but of course not all benefits of it. So do foreigner here.

So we are not so different after all.

I have chin. friends that are huge fan of european food and wines, cars, furniture, lifesyle, and quality of live.

There are no month passing when I am flying home with shopping lists for my friends, in my pockets.

So should I say no to protect the culture.

Chinese culture is failing, not completely but it's changing into a global Chinese culture like HK or Singapore, and people are very happy with this change, because it has variety and choice, something non existent at the moment.

So don't be so stiff, welcome this change.
And about foreigners in anther country.
I have chinese friends who lived in the US or England and never went out only met other Chinese and didn't speak better English from before they left for the new lands.
They never eat out in non Chinese or Asia restaurants and complain non-stop that they can't find friends or partners.
They let their folks send hot-pots, condiments and other stuff every few weeks.

And complain that life abroad is terrible.

So we are not so different after all.

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I think the time when the west was more expensive than China is over.

Example.
My younger brother lives in Holland, he rents a central 120sqm duplex apartment in a city comparable with Kunming. I think it's 5th or 6th biggest in Holland.
He pays 370 Euros=3100RMB for rent incl utilities. Except internet.

He goes to local discounter called LIDL and ALDI, check out their site. In those supermarkets, literally every product is cheaper than, even, the farmer markets or carrefour in China. Which still doesn't make sense, except for greed.

Same for my older brother.
He lives in a suburb of the MOST LIVABLE city in Germany, his rent for his almost 400sqm HOUSE with garden and balcony is about 450 Euro=3400RMB.

What kills them is car insurance and German utillitiy bills.

About Chinese food being so cheap, -it's relative.
Western Food is not more expensive, depending on how you look at it. You pay a little more but you pay for variety and quality and a certain amount of food safety.
I can't see mixian and Kunming snacks anymore, after 3 years in Kunming. It's literally all the same and al the same flavour.

A good filling bowl of proper Kunming food is at least 15RMB.

A dish at a western diner is about the same or slightly more.
Last week I spend 90 kuai at Salvadors for a falafel ca. 30RMB and quesadilla ca.30 RMB plus a filled to the top glass of Pinotage 20RMB.
I spend ca. 90 RMB and we had to doggy-bag it, because we just couldn't finish it.
So we ate two days on it. That's about the same you pay for Chinese snacks.

I promise if you have a proper meal at a Chinese restaurant you will spend more at a Chinese joint than a Western place.
We never leave a Chinese place paying less than 170RMB for 2. And we don't eat fancy or seafood or exquisite meats.

Literally everything is more expensive in China than it is in Germany or Holland and I suspect the rest of Europe.

The pay in China has not gone up for more than 10 years while expenses climb, like an expedition to the Everrest.

Foreign culture is becoming Chinese culture. Import sections are growing everywhere and I don't think it's for the few expats here.

As posters mentioned before a lot of Chinese culture is this preached government regulated culture BS. It's all mainstreamed. In general real Chinese culture is dying and I don't mind it too much. It's a sort of Disneylandish idea of it that just doesn't exists anymore, if it ever did!

I live with my Chinese wife and we are pretty integrated in Chinese culture and our salaries are barely enough to get by and we don't earn little.

China is crazy expensive. So the 4500RMB salaries even if they include living and stipends are not enough to save or pay mortgages or other luxury stuff, like owning a car.

We are not big import stuff spenders, nor do we go out besides our weekly romantic dinner, sometimes western sometimes chinese food and we still won't be able to save money.

Also keep in mind that having a life is something to spend a bit money on. And MMKunmingteachr you may be able to tell yourself you can do this for eternity at some point you will leave this bath in Chinese culture because the water will get cold and stale. You will get out again and spend some money on stuff you don't necessarily need or want but it makes you feel worth all the trouble and it pays off, for every penny.

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@Alien
The problem is not just social but also transportation itself.

It would be hard to imagine to see an important surgeon getting ready for brain surgery hauled in by bicycle.

The cars need to be smaller and hybrids, or hydrogen run.

Carsharing apps and carbo footprint rewards could be an incentive. Also accident free riding, traffic assistance points for good drivers. There are plenty of ways to get cars to more use, but it's not the transportation but the people, riding 'em.

No difference if it's a bike, car, plane or boat.

I think the bikesharing idea is brilliant. And it works with the to expected hiccups rather well.

Sure there are some idiots using the bikes for spare parts and vandalize 'em but for a country and its people who are used to not care for the environment or about thy neighbor, it works really well.

I am often in the North of town and there are always mobikes available, plus you can spot them through their GPS system.

I also saw how they have been sunk in the river and mistreated or misplaced, but I see an increase of care about the bikes.

I see people intentionally putting them in places, easy to spot for others.

I think they are brilliant options for short distance transportation.

The size and physical features of the bikes should be adjustable, seats and handlebars for example.

On the other hand, if I plan a trip over 3 kilometers,

I wouldn't chose bikesharing,anyways.

I usually take them to my Walmart trips or to downtown and they are great for that.

The car thing, as a veteran car mechanic I think people complaining about cars are silly.
The car is a fantastic transportation method and much cleaner than people care to admit.

When I was in school we learned that cars have an efficiency quotient of 60% by 1989.
By today's standards I would assume it is in the 80% or even more.

Most air pollution didn't come from cars, but from production of electricity.
Water pollution from heavy industry, for example making batteries.

And we all know what the Fukushima power plant was for.

It's our customer demands, deciding if we buy a Smart 4/4 or a hybrid micro mobile, or the new flashy cheaper by a few hundred bucks heavy FORD F150 truck.

Some people jump on electric cars like they are Jesus reborn.

These cars are not clean at all, and never will be.
Unless you use your treadmill to recharge batteries out of cow dung.

I have a car, because I live in Dali and we need one, for short hauls we use the scooter, or the bicycle. Our monthly carbo-emissions are lower than our fellow city people.
So, I don't feel bad nor do I have to.

There is Uber, carsharing and many other options to use a car more ecologically.

Or use bike sharing, it isn't perfect but it gets you from A to B cheap with little to no effort and without investing in transportation or fear the theft of you bike.And it's fun.

I give it thumbs up and I also like to see tourists have a great time with these bikes.

Maybe these companies could add different options, like touring bikes for higher deposits or fees, and other upscale options such as frequent flyer miles.

@misfit
What you describe is more the job description of a referee or a judge.

A teacher should promote knowledge and information, nurture the student in a good learning environment, should be a fair and capable conductor of a large variety of teaching methods and tools. He should be creative in choosing teaching approaches and act skillfully on an interpersonal level, encouraging students and find ways to widen and focus a students interest, on academically and individually. A teacher should be fair and knowledgeable in many subjects beyond his teaching subject. He should build sufficiency and confidence in his students.

He should be a teacher, mentor, artist, buddy and counselor.

-That's my definition of a teacher-

The way you approach a students learning, wouldn't that be very restrictive?

I think a teacher should give opportunities, let students experiment, broaden the horizon of the students.

Putting them in a box with only the things students are good at, will bring the opposite of what you and I like, inspiration and knowledge.

If I told a student, that he can't play guitar because he is better at the piano, it would l make him a unhappy piano player, hopefully a great symphony will be the result of his depression, but it could also turn him away from music, because if he hates the piano, how could he ever be good at it.

So why not let him open a few more doors, and let him try the guitar, or other instruments he feels happy with. In the end practice makes a good musician, and what better way to practice, than loving the instrument you love and practice every free minute.

As other posters have written before, we have so little time with the students, how could I possible objectively, and with all fairness know, IF a student is good at this or that, in those specific 15 seconds I am judging him on that day?

What if I would have assessed the same question a day or just after a good lunch break?

I think we shouldn't close and lock door, they should stay open, enabling a return to.

In my life I have returned to certain passions and interests, skipping others and learning new things.

I think it is what most people do and naturally inclined to.

We were born learners, explorers and inventors, and choosing via a teacher-medium what one is good at will never bring excellence.

What learners also should be introduced to is rejection and how to deal with it.

When I was young and a teacher told me I could never be a fighter pilot, which was my dream job,
I took it for granted. When I learned what alternative ways are available to become one, it was already too late.

Now, I teach students to find out alternatives to reach there goals, and to extend their mental middle finger, towards teachers restricting their minds and dreams.

The probably best way is to switch between all sorts of methods, restriction and encouragement.

Some parents told me their kids enjoy a little pressure, while other don't. And often there are many available ways to use the right amount of each for the individual students psyche.

@misfit
I seriously doubt that Newton, Beethoven, van Gogh and the whole bunch of French enlightenment and renaissance are the product of teachers spending all their resources and time on them.

Most geniuses are developing through a hobby or an interest, very few get special attention from teachers. Then when having a certain level they become disciples or apprentices .

I would guess that 2/3 of all the excellent achievers are autodidacts or have little to no education. Also some of the amazing musicians in this world are not recognized as such, most people don't even know who Peter Greene or Eddie Hazel is.

Also I highly doubt that Einstein and his brain capacity could have received anymore new knowledge through knowledge induction, over him learning autonomously.

And as Alien states, why send the smart kids to a slow kids school, if they are such geniuses? Why wasting the dumb kids time with the smart kids incredible brain force?

There are many organizations sponsoring gifted kids.

That way you could start working there, or have enough time to deal with the loser-kids, not worth your effort.

But I guess then the average student deserving most of the time and the loser kids shouldn't be wasting the teachers time, right? lol

@misfit
How can you define by meeting a student 3 times for about 20 seconds per week, saying things they memorize as homework?

Is he lazy? Is he inapt? Does he understand? Is he on-level? Is he a bit slow? Or are my teaching approaches not stimulating him? Does he have learning disabilities?

I am saying the teacher should never be a judge on a young persons skills, development, future, or career choice.

His job is to give every child the same chance, disregarding his level. The tools and methods are out there. Online, in courses, colleges, training schools.

Let me ask you a question, why is it so important to be excellent at something? Is it better to give one or a very few students all your time and resources in hope they will keep on doing this?

Or isn't it equally great to give a lot of student a good education, over excellence. Excellence can also be self motivated. I don't think a little Beethoven needs a lot of teaching, I'd assume a little Beethoven needs difficulty, challenges, and different intuitions and style. I doubt that some of those parents with geniuses as kids go and spend a lot of money on tutoring.

Take first aid, if I had a crash being severely injured, I am happy with the random person, moderately trained as medic but capable of administering first aid. I'd take that guy to help me over waiting about 15 minutes for the fully trained M.D. to arrive.

As I tried to explain, teaching all students giving equal chances and motivating the underdogs does not take much more work than giving it all for the good students.

We are not used to it, or told this and that, on how to proceed with our classes.

Also we look at how we got taught in school.

In my opinion, the more difficult the class is the more you have to break with standards and traditional thinking approaches.

I have a question, what does it say if teachers only give their attention to good students?

You, the one who is naturally good at something, and naturally not needed much help, shall receive all my attention because you don't really need it. In order for you to succeed.

You who could most benefit from my attention, shall not receive it because I sentence you not worthy of my work effort. Because you will fail for sure, and all future efforts are a waste of time.

It's illogical to focus on 3-10 good students, and you simply don't need to. Because they need little to no motivation. Because it is easy for them. And they can work on their own.
So, why not help the students who actually really need it.

How much time do you HAVE TO spend on a good student, each class?

I mean it how much of your 45 minutes could you possible spend on good students form them to be more good? And how?

Mathematics, English, Science, Physics. I can't think of any subject, except maybe P.E., where you couldn't give hard tasks and work as homework or work at the beginning of the class, for all the Einsteins.

And then you can focus on the students most benefiting from actual help.

Maybe I am nuts but I have more time now than I ever had before.

Sometimes, I kid you not. I lay down all my tasks at the beginning of the class, get the groups ready find their challenge-mate and sit back there on my chair, reading a book for 30 minutes, observing, who does what, listening to their questions to the excellent students, them using skills and method to teach and share.
Win-win, they win grades I win time and observation time.

My teacher ones told me, - a lazy teacher is a good teacher-.

I didn't quite get what he meant when he threw me into the classroom at first. Now I do know.

All of my students made unbelievable progress, None of my students ever goes below a C. I literally have no below-average anymore.

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The probably most family friendly place. They have a spacious area with toys, crayons and other children entertaining materials around. The owner and the staff always have a little play time for the kids, at least when we were there.

If they would get a little play area for kids, it would get all my votes for favorite 'everything', at the gokunming awards. There is a playground (entrance fee, quite steep). So If you have kids it's the best place to hang out. The owner has a lot of kid treats for kids, organic unsweetened yogurt, etc.

The pizza is great, and could compete with other pizza joints in China. For my taste it's a bit heavy on garlic but, if you let the staff know they will moderate the garlic use.

I can only agree with the other posters. Prices seem steep but when you see the pizza, it makes sense. Portions are huge. I ordered a family pizza for a treat to 15 kids, we still had left overs, and we were all stuffed.

The dough is a bit thicker but the tomato sauce tastes fresh made, and the amount balances the dough thickness. It's always plenty of ingredients on the pizza.

So in total it's a great spot, with good prices and good and healthy varieties. If you are with kids, it is a really good spot. If the staff is busy or the toys are taken, just send your kid to the indoor playground, opposite. Watch them have fun, from the huge glass windows and enjoy a nice draft, or craft beer while munching on your tomato Frisbee.

That's why I am giving it 5 stars.

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...best coach I ever had and i practiced Wushu at Beijing University of Physical Education and with a few members of the Beijing Wushu Team.

He is sharp, he gets your daily mood and doesn't mind when you scream to heavens when things don't work out in practice.

He has very modern teaching methods and really wants you to progress. He won't just let you repeat every move until you get it yourself.

He offers free trial classes. You won't be dissappointed.