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the best engineers are in us, because us has the best researching teams and i would recommend a genius to go studying in us than staying at bei da. his language problems can be overcome, he is studying engineering and not english literature. This issue was brought up by IELTS test designers, in order to discuss reconsidering the university admission criteria.

i agree with you that government should raise the language teaching standards but native and non natives should show the same qualifications, im not sure that s happening,but maybe im wrong.

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@napoleon im trying to move the issue from the worker point of view to the designer point of view. the boy who designed the illumination system might have some language problems but he is a genius, and if you are the college board for sure you wanna have it with you and possible keep it in your researching team after graduation...so a law that just rely on language merit is a barrier for your university. We can move the problem to politics (the designers) and see how a law that discriminates between natives and non natives in teaching languages is a barrier for the main purpose that s having a new generation with better english skills.

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agree with qualification, but as far as i know native speakers dont need to be certified/qualified to teach in most of chinese schools and that is based by the wrong assumption that natives are,by definition, good teachers.

As science/economics teachers need qualification in their major, english language teacher would need the correspondent one, no matter if they are native or not.

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The problem is that being native is not a guarantee of being a qualified teacher.
I have seen native speakers teaching kids words like lunch, love or lucky pronounced with the u like "butcher" :D
Do we really think a boy who's planning to study in US need that?

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I remember watching an interesting video about a lady from a teacher board discussing the criteria to pass the IELTS test and being admitted to certain foreign universities.
As we all know they are pretty strict about listening, reading, speaking etc so finally she gave the example of some boy from a remote village somewhere that was able to design and build an illumination system by himself. Well, she said, that boy's level of english couldn't probably meet the requirements but you really wouldn't want him in your university?

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HowDon, interesting comment, so I wanna ask you if the principle life for file is so elementary how can you explain that most of the countries in the world abolished death penalty?

Two TEENAGERS decided to murder people for money and they did it with extreme cruelty...
Do you think it is natural? Maybe as natural as cockroaches coming to your kitchen when you don't wash dishes for 4 days...
The illusion of "doing justice" is the best alibi for societies who don't want to admit that they should be the first to go to trial...

The comments on the chinese website linked are much more inspiring than the ones here...death penalty is not gonna solve the problem, things like this happened and will happen again and the way china is growing under the God of Money will just produce more monsters like that

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