While I don't agree with the Know-your-place-and-keep-your-mouth-shut sentiment this thread reeks of, I am well aware that there's a time and a place. That said, what's with the apologist approach? I think there's been 2 threads on GoK and they were both about keeping safe and staying out of trouble (before they mysteriously got locked, what's that about?) and it's hard to imagine a forum full of Westerners where the who/what/when and why wouldn't come up. I think both threads weren't crossing any lines and stayed within what reasonably could be expected in times like these. If Yereth feels he needs to self-censor, well, it's his site so although we can disagree wildly about the validity of such moves, in the end there's not much to do about it.
My wife translated some of the spewing. They had huge loudspeakers on a truck and there were some 15-20 mianbaoches lined up with banners and stuff. It looked VERY organized although I of course can't say for sure if it was approved by the local government or not. There were police posted in groups in the 4 corners of the square so at the very least they were noticed beforehand. I wonder if the Chinese are aware how much it could hurt them if Japanese citizens were killed in China and also how other Asian nations take note of this behaviour. If the fear of China exceeds the respect it's plausible that some will be pushed into the arms of American security treaties and/or a joint Asian defence cooperation.
Rally within hearing distance from my place. The speakers calling for the murder of all Japanese and the destruction of Japan. Seems local government approved since it's set up on a public square, lots of banners and the police is there to direct traffic (and nothing else). Also, plenty of cars here driving around nationalist style with flags and scary banners. This is taking an ugly turn and with the tendency for some Chinese to jump from words to violence very quickly, we probably should thread lightly.
One would imagine, if you bought something second hand it should be up to the police to prove it was acquired illegally, not for you to prove the opposite. I know China and the concept of Rule of Law sometimes collide, but if I had bought a 2nd hand scooter or something else and I knew it wasn't stolen before I'd fight hand and nail for my rights (and probably be laughed out of the police station).
When you set it up and if you're not planning on getting wifi, be careful in pointing out the correct data outlet. You won't get internet in China that can be accessed from the outlets in all the rooms but only one. I had way too long a talk with my TV/Internet company because they only wanted to set up the internet in the same room as the TV (naturally I don't want my computer desk and all the stuff in the only reasonably nice room if I can avoid it) and it took ages to make them give in. Oddly enough, when they finally relented it took them just about 10 minutes to set up. Anyway, about the lads they're sending out to fix it, they know what they're doing and won't leave until they've installed the software on your computer, set the whole thing up and it's working.
I just read up on the "November 27th UFO disclosure". Seems like Barack Obama and the Pope are going to participate in a 2 hour live tv session to be broadcast worldwide. They are going to disclose how aliens live amongst us and how we earthlings should react to them.
My only question is: Will the tinfoil hat I made in the 1st grade let me see the aliens or do I have to make a new 2009 model?
Might isn't right and I don't really see a valid connection between global warming and little green shapeshifter robots. Wait a minute,, global warming,, little green men,, I might be pushing it but do you think those two could be related somehow?? Maybe "They" don't want us to know about the aliens because they are causing the global warming. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa and the Bilderbergs are in on it as well.
"Do you believe in God Danmairen?"
Do I come off as the religious type to you when I insist on scientific proof to prove wild statements and question the "I am sure it's there so it HAS to be there"- kinda thinking you guys present? (not even sure if it's more than one guy using different handles,, never noticed their names before on this site tbh).
Just to sum up,, no I don't believe in gods or religion. Interesting subject for a discussion though but there is a place and a time for everything.
"You sir, Danmeiren, have the mentality of the kind of people that denied that the Earth was round. It doesn't take a genius to realize that UFOs are a very much possibly real."
No I haven't and if you had bothered to read my post then you probably would have realized that the second part of your statement is wrong also (when you use it to refer to me).
The first part you write is just ridiculous sorry. How is it wrong to want some kind of scientific proof to wild and weird claims? Although there is a theory that space can be bent doesn't mean that it IS true. Less that organized matter such as spaceships and organic organisms can use them for teleportal travelling. As a matter of fact wormholes and instant travelling breaks just about every physical law outthere but I am sure that people like you can find some awkward pseudo-scientific theory as to why it should be possible.
Again let me point out that I don't deny that there by all means should be intelligent life other than us in the universe. I just don't think they are visiting us and it is highly unlikely that they ever will within the lifespan of an intelligent civilization.
I'll be very happy to be proven wrong one day if we actually do make first contact but I have a feeling you and the other True Believers outthere will do whatever it takes (even a fight against reality) NOT to be proven wrong.
Either way this discussion is kinda irrelevant since only one thing can happen that satisfies both sides. Contact with intelligent life. Still I have to say that the idea of shapeshifting alien robots doesn't immediately win me over. Strange huh?
First of all. How do you get to the conclusion that "I know nothing about the subject" because I question someone claiming that shape-shifters and alien robots walk amongst us? I love people like you who aren't even able to see what a ridiculous statement that it.
You are clearly more biased than me since you already proudly have referred to your blog from which one can only deduce that you are a firm believer in UFOs (and since you attack me for doubting shapeshifting alien robots I have to assume that you belive they exist too).
"Maybe this good physicist look at he evidence which most close minded scientist will not entertain". How do you know he is a Good Physicist? Because he is one of the very few scientists who share your beliefs? I can tell you that he DOESN'T qualify as a good scientist unless his claims can be backed up by good solid science. Science and tests that can be backed up by other scientists.
The only thing you get right in your post is your final comment about the box. I would actually LOVE to find out that there are aliens and that they visit us regularly. The difference between you and me is that I don't mistake my interest and hopes with seeing interstellar crafts, little green men and EVIDENCE everywhere I look.
Oh,, and just for the record I do not doubt that there is intelligent life out there. Even by using the most conservative estimates in the Drake equation the number of planets harbouring life in the universe always ends up in hundreds of thousands.
The problem with the truly unimaginable distances in the universe prevents them from ever visiting us,, or us them. Either way I find it hard to belive they would develop their space travel ability, spend hundreds of years in cryostasis in space while travelling to Earth only to make a crop circle, probe a cow and then it is back home without making any contact.
But of course if they are here as shape-shifting alien robots then that should solve the problem.
I like how a professor of physics sets aside all standards of good science to claim that shape-shifting alien robots walk amongst us. I think he is on to something there,,
Went there yesterday and it totally made my week. Nice decor and friendly staff and a real salad bar. Sadly we both wanted mexican food so I can't really say much about their other courses. The food was great but just a tad spicier would have improved the dish. The best thing was that we almost had the place to ourselves and we could have a quiet conversation without shouting, spitting Chinese people in the background. I realised how much I had missed that since coming here.
We went to Chicago Coffee a couple of days ago and it was a nice experience. The place is cozy with soft comfy chairs (I realized how much I have missed one since coming here) and they have a nice little collection of English language books in the corner consisting mainly of classics and travel litterature. I was looking forward to trying their advertized tortilla bar but it wasn't up and running that evening.
Instead we went for 2 12 inch pizzas -roast chicken and pepperoni- but we quickly realized that 1 would have been enough. Those things are heavy. I am mainly into Italian style pizza but Chicago's double layered pizzas are well worth a try. Their coffee seems to be a bit on the expensive side but people say good things about it and they have got a nice selection. I wouldn't mind dropping by again some day,, hopefully when they've got the tortilla thing going. English speaking staff btw.
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Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
Posted byI just read up on the "November 27th UFO disclosure". Seems like Barack Obama and the Pope are going to participate in a 2 hour live tv session to be broadcast worldwide. They are going to disclose how aliens live amongst us and how we earthlings should react to them.
My only question is: Will the tinfoil hat I made in the 1st grade let me see the aliens or do I have to make a new 2009 model?
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
Posted byMight isn't right and I don't really see a valid connection between global warming and little green shapeshifter robots. Wait a minute,, global warming,, little green men,, I might be pushing it but do you think those two could be related somehow?? Maybe "They" don't want us to know about the aliens because they are causing the global warming. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa and the Bilderbergs are in on it as well.
"Do you believe in God Danmairen?"
Do I come off as the religious type to you when I insist on scientific proof to prove wild statements and question the "I am sure it's there so it HAS to be there"- kinda thinking you guys present? (not even sure if it's more than one guy using different handles,, never noticed their names before on this site tbh).
Just to sum up,, no I don't believe in gods or religion. Interesting subject for a discussion though but there is a place and a time for everything.
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
Posted by"You sir, Danmeiren, have the mentality of the kind of people that denied that the Earth was round. It doesn't take a genius to realize that UFOs are a very much possibly real."
No I haven't and if you had bothered to read my post then you probably would have realized that the second part of your statement is wrong also (when you use it to refer to me).
The first part you write is just ridiculous sorry. How is it wrong to want some kind of scientific proof to wild and weird claims? Although there is a theory that space can be bent doesn't mean that it IS true. Less that organized matter such as spaceships and organic organisms can use them for teleportal travelling. As a matter of fact wormholes and instant travelling breaks just about every physical law outthere but I am sure that people like you can find some awkward pseudo-scientific theory as to why it should be possible.
Again let me point out that I don't deny that there by all means should be intelligent life other than us in the universe. I just don't think they are visiting us and it is highly unlikely that they ever will within the lifespan of an intelligent civilization.
I'll be very happy to be proven wrong one day if we actually do make first contact but I have a feeling you and the other True Believers outthere will do whatever it takes (even a fight against reality) NOT to be proven wrong.
Either way this discussion is kinda irrelevant since only one thing can happen that satisfies both sides. Contact with intelligent life. Still I have to say that the idea of shapeshifting alien robots doesn't immediately win me over. Strange huh?
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
Posted byDear Joseph Capp
First of all. How do you get to the conclusion that "I know nothing about the subject" because I question someone claiming that shape-shifters and alien robots walk amongst us? I love people like you who aren't even able to see what a ridiculous statement that it.
You are clearly more biased than me since you already proudly have referred to your blog from which one can only deduce that you are a firm believer in UFOs (and since you attack me for doubting shapeshifting alien robots I have to assume that you belive they exist too).
"Maybe this good physicist look at he evidence which most close minded scientist will not entertain". How do you know he is a Good Physicist? Because he is one of the very few scientists who share your beliefs? I can tell you that he DOESN'T qualify as a good scientist unless his claims can be backed up by good solid science. Science and tests that can be backed up by other scientists.
The only thing you get right in your post is your final comment about the box. I would actually LOVE to find out that there are aliens and that they visit us regularly. The difference between you and me is that I don't mistake my interest and hopes with seeing interstellar crafts, little green men and EVIDENCE everywhere I look.
Oh,, and just for the record I do not doubt that there is intelligent life out there. Even by using the most conservative estimates in the Drake equation the number of planets harbouring life in the universe always ends up in hundreds of thousands.
The problem with the truly unimaginable distances in the universe prevents them from ever visiting us,, or us them. Either way I find it hard to belive they would develop their space travel ability, spend hundreds of years in cryostasis in space while travelling to Earth only to make a crop circle, probe a cow and then it is back home without making any contact.
But of course if they are here as shape-shifting alien robots then that should solve the problem.
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
Posted byI like how a professor of physics sets aside all standards of good science to claim that shape-shifting alien robots walk amongst us. I think he is on to something there,,