@bosnian, well we could say that the original poster is implying that reverse discrimination is also evident in China, at least in the case of this club.
Also, as I mentioned before, China is not so bad when it comes to these things (at least not anymore). Although one poster mentioned discrimination occuring at a swimming pool (although that is not government sanctioned of course) although such practices are rare from what I've seen (apart from opportunistic overpricing, but that's a different story altogether). In any case, most businesses in Yunnan see so few foreigners there would be no point in trying to charge different rates, either more or less. Apart from the French Cafe, Salvador's etc. which receive foreigners everyday, the vast majority of businesses here have maybe 1 foreigner a day or less.
I find different pricing regimes based on nationality offensive, even if foreigners get in for free or for less than locals - generally it is the other way round, but even in this case it's not really acceptable.
Anyway, I second the comment above; I'd much rather go to a tourist attraction in China where I won't be charged extra by a greedy, racist government [like Thailand] that only sees tourists as dollar signs and which is why the only thing that matters to that government is that they can get as many tourists as possible —> this year the target is 19 million, next year maybe 25 and in 10 years perhaps more than the population of the country itself, who knows?
Anyway, I digress, so back on topic. Would I want to go to this club because I'm going to get a discount? Not necessarily...I'll just go to any club with my friends because either a group of people will invite me to join in their drinking parade and/or I might even offer to buy the second round of drinks for them. It didn't work last time, because everyone was so drunk by 4am that they weren't able to drink anymore, although at least I offered to pay, which was civil of me i guess.
Actually, at the foreigner's dorms at YUN although they feature paint peeling off the walls and damaged cabinets etc. at least you get a private bathroom with a hot water shower. The Chinese student's dorms just adjacent to the foreign student's dorms feature 8 students to a room and a shared bathroom for i don't know how many students with a stench you can smell 10m away. Privacy is an alien concept and it's only a bit better for foreign students who have 2-4 people per room (usually 4).
At Yunnan University there is a greater diversity of nationalities. There are more Koreans and more westerners than at YUN.
I think going overland would be a fun experience, though after factoring in all the costs, it may be cheaper (if only slightly) to fly to Mandalay or Yangon, both of which can be reached from Kunming on non-stop flights. In fact, the only international flight departing and arriving at Mandalay airport originates in Kunming (China Eastern).
Closed? I think if you get a visa arranged beforehand, with the right permits and guide (should be arranged from Kunming if possible) you can go in (at least exit China for Myanmar). I don't think visas on arrival are an option, or ever were an option for this crossing.
I hear a guide is also supposed to accompany all foreign visitors heading south of the border town of Mu-se until at least the town of Lashio, 8 hours south. Also, I doubt such a busy border crossing would be closed; the town of Mu-se is just an extension of China anyway and the vast majority of China-Myanmar trade flows through this crossing.
Get more information by contacting a Kunming travel agency and the Myanmar consulate here in Kunming.
According to the article re: railroad in Laos, this Malaysian firm wants to build a 220km connection between Thailand and Vietnam NOT the one up to the Chinese border that's been talked about and cancelled, then revived again so many times.
The plan by the Lao government to still go ahead with the railway project is unbelievable. Neighboring Vietnam voted not to go ahead with a planned Ho Chi Minh to Hanoi high speed rail link due to concerns about profitability (i.e. not enough Vietnamese would be able to afford a ticket despite having a reasonably sized middle class at least in Hanoi and Saigon).
Now Laos, with only just over 6 million people and a tiny middle class wants to do the same? Good luck! However, I wouldn't be surprised if in 6 months from now I read in the Vientiane Times that the project has been put on hold again.
I'd suggest stick to a normal speed train that locals will actually be able to afford, going high-speed while neither Thailand nor Vietnam, two neighboring economic juggernaughts have plans to do the same is quite far fetched, I'll believe it when I see it but it seems like a crazy idea for now!
The only good news is that Laos can take control of the railway project and not have to worry about the previous 5km land concession on either side of the tracks that was previously demanded by the Chinese side.
Also, scally is correct about the reasons for Naw Kham being tried in China and logically Kunming, the closest major Chinese city to the area where the attacks occurred would be the best place to try him.
Incidentally, the 9 renegade Thai soldiers also implicated in the attacks will be tried in Thailand.
Well, he killed only Chinese sailors and based on this story, he has had run-ins with the Chinese authorities before. Overall, it's good that this criminal has been brought to justice. Also, by being tried in China he will receive the punishment he deserves.
The Mekong River in the 2000s should be about tourism and trade, not murder, drug trafficking and mayhem. Those latter three things should firmly be entrenched as relics of the past.
What do you mean by "foreigners"? Everyone who is a non-citizen of Myanmar and wants to travel there is a foreigner. I doubt Burmese citizens require visas to return to their homeland.
Horrible tasteless, thick-crusted "cardboard" like pizzas that are a far cry from what they should be like. Way overpriced too. Wine may be good, but why bother when the nearby Prague Cafe makes much better pizza at a more reasonable price?
Great Mexican food and ice cream, excellent Raspberry smoothies and an overall good atmosphere. Can't do much about the low ceilings on the second floor, but the early closing time could be adjusted, after all, the nearby French Cafe closes at 1am.
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Malaysian firm to invest $8.1 billion in Songming
Posted byAccording to the article re: railroad in Laos, this Malaysian firm wants to build a 220km connection between Thailand and Vietnam NOT the one up to the Chinese border that's been talked about and cancelled, then revived again so many times.
Doors to international trade swing wide for Laos
Posted byThe plan by the Lao government to still go ahead with the railway project is unbelievable. Neighboring Vietnam voted not to go ahead with a planned Ho Chi Minh to Hanoi high speed rail link due to concerns about profitability (i.e. not enough Vietnamese would be able to afford a ticket despite having a reasonably sized middle class at least in Hanoi and Saigon).
Now Laos, with only just over 6 million people and a tiny middle class wants to do the same? Good luck! However, I wouldn't be surprised if in 6 months from now I read in the Vientiane Times that the project has been put on hold again.
I'd suggest stick to a normal speed train that locals will actually be able to afford, going high-speed while neither Thailand nor Vietnam, two neighboring economic juggernaughts have plans to do the same is quite far fetched, I'll believe it when I see it but it seems like a crazy idea for now!
The only good news is that Laos can take control of the railway project and not have to worry about the previous 5km land concession on either side of the tracks that was previously demanded by the Chinese side.
Mekong drug kingpin stands trial in Kunming
Posted byAlso, scally is correct about the reasons for Naw Kham being tried in China and logically Kunming, the closest major Chinese city to the area where the attacks occurred would be the best place to try him.
Incidentally, the 9 renegade Thai soldiers also implicated in the attacks will be tried in Thailand.
Mekong drug kingpin stands trial in Kunming
Posted byWell, he killed only Chinese sailors and based on this story, he has had run-ins with the Chinese authorities before. Overall, it's good that this criminal has been brought to justice. Also, by being tried in China he will receive the punishment he deserves.
The Mekong River in the 2000s should be about tourism and trade, not murder, drug trafficking and mayhem. Those latter three things should firmly be entrenched as relics of the past.