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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Vietnam travel visa for Chinese citizen?

BTW @geosax I also heard that Chinese citizens now definately require a round-trip air ticket to enter Malaysia and also assume a visa in advance will be required, particularly if arriving by air directly from China. I believe that there is a Malaysian consulate in Kunming and the Vietnamese consulate is located in the Kai Wah building on Beijing Lu.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Vietnam travel visa for Chinese citizen?

@jbsindali,

I have heard this too, and can confirm that Chinese citizens need (based on last year's info, this may have changed) a visa prior to arriving in another country for countries that offer visa-on-arrival services for Chinese citizens. What this means is that Chinese laws override the visa rules of those countries.

For example, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia all issue visas on arrival for Chinese citizens with specific conditions (e.g. round-trip air ticket required in the case of air arrivals in Thailand), but the only way a Chinese citizen can qualify for this is by arriving in Thailand from a third country that is not mainland China (Hong Kong would thus count). Therefore, a Chinese citizen could travel to Cambodia etc. by way of Thailand and get a visa-on-arrival at the border like citizens of most other countries, but this doesn't apply for direct flights from China, where the Chinese government requires a visa in a Chinese citizen's passport prior to leaving to be permitted to board the plane.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Kunming-Dali Highspeed Rail

Good question; I was wondering the same thing with the proposed Kunming-Vientiane (Laos) high speed railway that will also connect to Bangkok and eventually to Singapore via Malaysia. Construction was supposed to have started last year and be finished by 2015, but political troubles and resistance in Thailand for the Thai-leg of the project, the Wenzhou crash, corruption concerns and heavily indebted government that is no longer able to borrow as easily from local banks have all (likely, since I'm not sure) put the brakes on that and the Dali project, at least for now.

I think the Dali project makes more sense than the Lao one for the time being (and should be a priority); it will be a long time before all the missing connections are made and political issues overcome in the case of the latter, so instead of only 3 years, it might take 10 years before we can expect to travel between SE Asia and Kunming, and the rest of China via high-speed rail.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Kunming to Ubon Ratchathani (Thailand) and most of all: back

Myanmar, not likely at the moment, though with the current political situation there looking very positive, it may just be possible that the country opens up quite quickly. Right now it should be possible to travel from Thailand through Myanmar up to close to the Chinese border and then back again, but not as a transit country at this time.

Through Laos, go through the only international border crossing at Boten/Mohan (for the time being, although another crossing in northern Phongsali province may open in 2012) and then any one of the many crossings between Laos and Thailand (for example, friendship bridge 1 between Vientiane and Nong Khai) or alternatively, Chong Mek near Ubon. There are plenty of buses from Ubon that with connections will eventually get you back to Kunming. For example, you could try an Ubon to Udon Thani bus, then a cross-border Udon to Vientiane bus, connecting to the Vientiane-Kunming cross-border bus (although that's a long haul). Even longer would be Ubon-Pakse (cross-border bus) then Pakse-Vientiane and finally Vientiane-Kunming, or alternatively, Vientiane-Luang Prabang (by minivan) followed by Luang Prabang-Kunming (still a long-haul by bus). Another option would be to get yourself to Jinghong in Sipsongbanna to break the journey and from there it's easy to get back to Kunming with hourly bus services.

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Some airlines, particularly international ones like THAI have not updated their systems to reflect the new airport. At the beginning, starting tomorrow, I'm sure there will be some passengers that won't know about the change and will thus go to the wrong airport and miss their flights.

Yeah the Lijiang line is currently under construction, while the Ruili line is supposed to form part of a proposed Kunming-Myanmar rail link - it will probably also be constructed at some stage (as reported by GoKM last year) but I suspect it will take a little while.

All of this is quite amazing, but even in China not everything goes to plan. Originally the proposed high speed railway from Kunming to Vientiane, Laos via Jinghong and Boten was supposed to be completed by 2015, but a number of issues will likely push back that project for another 10 or more years, though I do believe that it will eventually be built. Also, since the idea is to link south-western China with the south-east Asian coast, Thai and eventually Malaysian and Singaporean co-operation is vital to building this link in the first place; building a line only as far as Vientiane would likely turn out to be a white elephant project since the objective is to make most income from moving goods between SE Asia and SW China quickly via train rather than passengers and that requires linking SW China to a coastline - something which Laos doesn't have.

Regarding the Hekou line, they've been proposing that one for years now since trains stopped running between Kunming and Hekou in 2002. Finally this article mentions a new high-speed line is under construction, but this will be of little use unless the Vietnamese also build a complementary high-speed line on their side (sure, they already have an existing railway line running from Lao Cai via Hanoi down to Saigon, but it's rather slow). Also, the Vietnamese government recently turned down a proposal for converting their existing line into a high-speed line, citing the high cost and the low passenger volumes that would utilize the line.

Wow, it's finally upon us. The new airport will finally open at the end of this month! Only thing is, I'd avoid non-essential travel in and out of this airport for the first couple of weeks since it will probably be more chaotic than usual and things may not go as planned (for example baggage claim may be unusually slow).

I like the statement "For travelers without cars, taxis are always an option." well of course they are. For starters, most people in Kunming still don't own a car despite all the cars on the roads these days. Secondly, even if you do have a car, who would drive to the airport in order to catch a flight and then park their car for the duration of their overseas or interprovincial stay there? I don't think long-term parking is well known in China so even a week's worth of parking could become very expensive and possibly more expensive than even in some western countries.

I am looking forward to the proposed direct Europe flights. Anyone have any idea about when these flights might begin and who which carriers will offer service (presumably Chinese carriers I would imagine)?

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