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Forums > Living in Kunming > Thailand life ?

Further to your original post thebeargirl, the elevations in Thailand are very modest compared to anything in Yunnan. The highest mountain in Thailand is only as high as the western hills surrounding Kunming, so you won't need anything more than a light sweater.

The weather in Thailand in the dry season, covering all of northern, north eastern and central Thailand is superb. The chance of rain is almost nil, the visibility is superb and temperatures average around 28 degrees C in Chiang Mai, 31 in Bangkok and minimums are around 17 in Chiang Mai and 21 in Bangkok, although 25/33 even in December or January is not unknown in Bangkok. Basically, it's hot, sunny and less humid and cooler than other times of the year but that's it.

I doubt that the water quality in Thailand could be any worse than China. I would never drink tap water in China because that would make one very sick, and I would advise the same in Thailand. If you have a weak stomach, brush your teeth with bottled water only.

Thailand is generally safe, but as a freer country than China with less police control and far more tourists and expats, you'll find things a bit different especially in nightlife areas. While by and large safe, don't attract the wrong people or you could get in trouble.

As soon as you arrive in Bangkok, you'll see people from India, Europe, Africa and other places, whereas in Kunming you might see 3 foreigners roaming downtown, in Bangkok half of all people in the central shopping areas will be foreigners. The difference between Kunming and Bangkok in this respect is like night and day.

Finally, never ever lose your cool in Thailand. Nobody will help you or talk to you again if you do. Getting visibly angry might work in China, but it gets you nowhere in Thailand. You'll almost never see Thais get visibly angry, so I would advise you to heed this crucial piece of advice.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Thailand life ?

@the beargirl, you originally posted this thread on Oct 29th, but said you will be in Thailand on Oct 5. Unless you can go back in time, did you actually mean Nov 5?

Anyway, what will you be doing in Thailand? 5 months is a long time and there are no 5 month visas. You can stay for 60 days on a tourist visa, then get a 30 day extension. After that you'd need to leave the country and come back to gain a new permission of stay but you can't keep doing that as you'd start to arouse permission on the other hand if you don't stay more than 5 months you should be OK. If you have some sort of non-immigrant visa to come as an exchange student, you'd probably get a 90 day visa that can be extended up to 5 months. Make sure you have the right visa in your passport before leaving though otherwise you won't get on the plane.

Don't worry about Chinese pills, they are weird and what you'll find in Thailand is much the same as in the west, predictable and safe. Before every trip to China I stock up on medicine like anti-diahrrea charcoal pills (which for some bizarre reason are unavailable in Kunming, can anyone confirm?) in Thailand because I know that I don't want to try to find these things in China. In terms of doctors, they all speak good English and I'd much rather trust a Thai doctor than a doctor in Kunming. In fact, if I ever got sick in Kunming, I'd take the first flight out to Bangkok (I have travel insurance anyway) to seek treatment there.

I have never attempted to exchange Yuan into a foreign currency in Kunming, always thought it was too difficult to find a place willing to do it so I never even bothered (although I hear the BOC can help). Save your energy and get a better exchange rate for Yuan even at Bangkok or Chiang Mai airports. Alternatively you can try the moneychanger at Kunming's new Changshui airport, although their rates could be a bit better.

If you don't smoke, take drugs or even drink much, Thailand is heaven when it comes to partying. Much more fun than Kunming, 100x more choice and smoking is not allowed in nightclubs and this is largely enforced and adhered to. Smoking was banned in nightclubs back in 2007 and before then I always wondered why Thailand was so behind compared to say, Australia which banned smoking in nightclubs about 10 years earlier, depending on the state. However, now that Thailand has caught up that only leaves China, especially Yunnan.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Can pickups enter Kunming?

Hi, I have been told that there are restrictions on pickup trucks entering the city of Kunming and that they aren't allowed in the center of town. This seems a bit odd to me, as in most other countries, pickup trucks or utility vehicles are simply considered to be a type of car that can carry a load at the back and are treated the same as sedans, SUVs etc. Does anybody know if this is true?

On another note, does anybody know the procedure for a Lao registered car to be driven to Kunming and stay there long-term? The car would from time to time also be driven back to Laos, Thailand and other regional countries hence the reason for being Lao registered. I have read somewhere the car would need to have license (number) plates from Yunnan, likely Xishuangbanna plates obtained from Mengla or Jinghong, but haven't been able to confirm this. I know that Lao registered vehicles are commonly seen throughout Xishuangbanna and that they don't require any Chinese plates, but then they are restricted from travelling north of Jinghong without special permission. My company's case is different because the car would also need to be driven around Kunming and other parts of Yunnan.

Thanks for all the info.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Getting a Work Visa in Vietnam

The latets information is that Hanoi does process visa applications for non-residents but Ho Chi Minh City does not at this time. This is a policy reversal from what I stated previously, so the OP should be OK. In any case, processing a Z visa if the paperwork mentions a specific city should be OK regardless. The info I was referring to is mainly for tourist and business visa applicants.

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This is crazy! Sounds like the kind of thing you hear about happening in the US, not China. Anyway, they were arrested quickly and yes, Liumingke1234, they can and most likely will be given the maximum penalty for their crimes. I believe in China 14 year olds can be tried as adults. It doesn't say how old these teenagers are, but my guess is they are certainly in their mid to high teens.

Very sad indeed...I hope the new tenant is also a foreigner who opens up a similar bar or restaurant to you guys. Good luck with the future and hope to visit you in Lijiang or Shangri-la. In any case, stay in China! Restaurants/bars like yours really make places like Kunming feel cozier.

@Peter99, I agree that there could be many more independent Chinese tourists in Chiang Mai, or indeed in many other parts of the world in the future.

I have seen many independent Chinese tourists, many travelling by themselves in places like Thailand, Vietnam and Cambodia. They usually have enough English to at least order from a menu though. It's kinda ridiculous for people like the young Chinese tourists above to not know what they "are ordering". If you ask me, except at Wenlie Jie and a few downtown areas, it's much more difficult to know what you are ordering in China!

Contrary to what is stated in this article, I don't think the Chinese can take away Thai jobs or properties because unlike in Laos, the Thais are fiercely protective of their rights and know what they are. Also, foreigners can't own land even if they become married to Thai citizens. With the exception of jobs requiring Chinese language skills, Chinese citizens wouldn't be able to find work in Thailand either and they can certainly forget about working in protected sectors like farming etc. so I think the fears raised above are unfounded unless Thailand opens up more but their restrictive property and work laws are probably in place to avoid such a scenario.

However, for now, the Chinese train project from Kunming through Laos connecting all the way to Singapore is not going to happen, but the Thais seem to be confident about a possible Japanese investment for some domestic HSR (high speed rail) lines in the near future. Personally, I would still put my money on the Chinese coming through eventually, but it might take 10+ years to happen so the original opening date of 2015 is now nothing more than a pipe dream given that the Chinese have now scaled back on HSR projects given safety issues, the resignation of the railway minister etc.

The road through Myanmar (Burma) from Mae Sai/Tachileik to China has too many restrictions on travel and since the Mae Sai crossing only allows travel to/from Mae Sai it can't be used by anyone planning on travelling overland between Thailand and China via Myanmar territory; thus Chinese and Thai/third party tourists/businesspeople etc. travelling overland between Thailand and China must go through Laos (or alternatively, Laos and Vietnam). I hope that with the recent positive developments in Myanmar that an overland route connecting Thailand and China and an upgrading of the Chinese/Burmese border post to an international one will happen, but until it does it won't become an option for anyone.

I wouldn't put my money on low-cost flight options to Kunming happening anytime soon, though eventually they should come through put this will depend entirely on demand for such services.

@invisible, the railway link from Kunming to the Vietnamese border has existed for like 100 years but only now does it look like it will reopen again after being closed for roughly 10 years now. As such, this will mean you can once again travel by rail from Kunming to Hanoi and beyond to Ho Chi Minh City. When it opens is unclear, but I'd say give it a year or so.

@pickley - hitchhiking is possible, but not really recommended due to the low cost of public transport and possible risk of things going wrong, though having said that hitchhiking is far safer in most parts of East Asia than in the USA for example. But you can still try anyway and it is surely a very interesting way of travelling.

I think Chinese truck drivers (starting in northern Laos, not far from the border) or Lao truck drivers (who wouldn't go much beyond Mengla) would help you cross the border, and then you could try flagging another vehicle to go further north. Alternatively, Chinese tourists driving themselves in southern Xishuangbanna or possibly in Laos itself might be willing to help you. It would be a good idea to offer some food, drinks or something for the ride and truck drivers often expect some payment anyway, but if you are nice and give them some food, cigarettes (if they smoke) or something else then that should make them happy enough without the need for monetary compensation. Every experience is different so you'll need to just try it out and see what happens.

@russell, it's Ji. There's a much faster way of translating English to Chinese these days and requires no travel outside of your own home: it's called google translate.

Anyway, from this itinerary it looks like the writer is about to enter Vietnam before he enters Laos, unless he backtracks first. Normally to travel from Kunming to Laos one would pass through Yuxi, Yuanjiang, Simao (Pu'er), Jinghong (Xieng Hung or Chiang Rung), Mengla (Muang La) and finally Mohan before reaching Laos. Of course while you can't cycle on the expressway, I have seen western cyclists on the highway between Jinghong and the border (there is currently no expressway there).

Therefore taking the backroads between Kunming and Jinghong would be the fastest way, but this cyclist's itinerary sounds more interesting and passes a more beautiful region of Yunnan - I too was very impressed by Yuanyang (hence my GoKM username right hehe), not to mention Lvchun and the Vietnamese borderlands before reaching Hekou.

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Horrible tasteless, thick-crusted "cardboard" like pizzas that are a far cry from what they should be like. Way overpriced too. Wine may be good, but why bother when the nearby Prague Cafe makes much better pizza at a more reasonable price?

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Great Mexican food and ice cream, excellent Raspberry smoothies and an overall good atmosphere. Can't do much about the low ceilings on the second floor, but the early closing time could be adjusted, after all, the nearby French Cafe closes at 1am.