yopopo, youi could take the time to find the products etc., but make sure to relax a bit from all that and pay some attention to China itself, as it is a rather interesting place.

thanks!

taobao and salvador's sound great.

i do and will continue to use baking soda and vinegar and other such things as and when possible to avoid buying products we can make at home.

i also heard taobao is a great source for getting healthy food so i'll dig into it soon after i arrive.

thanks again! =)

Making simple stuff as you say is a good idea. Also, if you can get a flat with a bathtub you can save water (we have droughts).

Um...I have a recipe e-book on natural (allegedly "green") home cleansers. Failing that, Amway (not me) allegedly makes green detergents and cleansers. Maybe, their time has finally arrived.

thanks again everyone!

seems i won't be living in kunming after all.

i love the challenge of finding my own way to live in a new place so i am excited by the chance to give it a go in china. =)

Hey, yopopo, best wishes, hope we didn't scare you off!

i am simply trying to figure out which city in sub-tropical china offers the best living conditions for what i seek (clean, green, affordable, beautiful landscape...).

thanks again for all your kind inputs. =)

you were originally looking for personal care products. now you're looking for a green place to live? so i would venture to guess that you're yanking people's chains.

Hiya yopopo

I'm just curious to know did u decide on somewhere yet? And if u did what swayed u in that direction?

all the best

David

yopopo, try Xishuangbanna (Sip Song Panna) - Kunming is not subtropical.