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Vegetarian - to be or not to be?

Magnifico (1981 posts) • 0

abcnews.go.com/[...]

Researchers at Western University in Canada surveyed 1,200 patients about their egg and cigarette consumption and used ultrasound to measure the plaque in their arteries. They then concluded in the study, which was published in the journal Atherosclerosis, that people who ate more eggs over time had more plaque in their arteries, and equated eating eggs to smoking cigarettes.

Magnifico (1981 posts) • 0

"A recommended read for anyone that wants to understand why it appears scientists sometimes get things wrong - they use reductive reasoning for complex systems."

Taubes does use the word "big fat lie", which seems to suggest a deliberate error.

But anyway, the point is that you admit that science 'sometimes gets things wrong' but keep clinging to scientific findings. They OFTEN get things wrong, not sometimes. OFTEN. More often than not. OFTEN. ALWAYS, maybe?

blobbles (958 posts) • 0

Guilty of not reading the whole article Magnifico?

"But cardiologists say the study shouldn't be taken so seriously because the research is flawed.
"This is very poor quality research that should not influence patient's dietary choices," said Dr. Steven Nissen, who chairs the department of Cardiovascular Medicine at the Cleveland Clinic Foundation, in an email. "It is extremely important to understand the differences between 'association' and 'causation'"

This is a classic example of what I have just stated. The science is disputed, within the same article. Yet people, like you have done, appear to just read the first few lines and believe it. The science was shoddy and when put against other papers was shown to be flawed. So science wins again by disproving itself, which is very important.

Absolutely scientists get things wrong. If you understand the scientific process, that is KEY to the process. It is also why, like I said, individual studies do not instantly become scientific canon. They require verification from different sources. If you refuse to understand this, you do not understand the scientific process.

blobbles (958 posts) • 0

You will note that the article did not quote the ENTIRE scientific community. And I don't know which ones would :-)

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