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An oil refinery factory to be established in Anning

mike4g_air (788 posts) • 0

This is old news from 2010

Why do people wake up when it's too late..

In my opinion this will not effect Kunming's air too much, the location is far enough away the prevailing winds will drift pollutants north of the city..

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Presently the oil refinery is almost finished.

It's on the highway's right in a westerly heading (going towards Dali)

In the same period a new steel smelter was built in Cao pu.

The real polluters for kunming's air are the older steel smelters located south of anning, directly upwing of Kunming..

lummerlaoshi (130 posts) • 0

I don't know the real impact of this factory, but my Chinese friend is going to demonstrate against it today. He showed me that this company has been trying to open this factory in different parts of China, but the locals always protested and the factory wasn't opened. Apparently the company has a bad history of polluting the environment so the factory's been a bit of a hot potato. They finally landed in Anning and slipped right in.

debaser (647 posts) • 0

sounds like it could be more than just 'oil' which might explain the slow opposition. this is part of an article from the BBC (which appears to have been blocked since yesterday - hence the copy n' paste):

Hundreds of people have rallied in the Chinese city of Kunming to protest at plans for a factory producing a toxic chemical for the textile industry.

Some demonstrators wore symbolic masks and brandished posters warning against the dangers of a paraxylene (PX) spill.

Two years ago, protests against a PX factory in the city of Dalian forced the city government to close the plant, though it reportedly re-opened later.

Saturday's protest in Kunming, in the south-west of the country, attracted at least 200 people, according to state media.
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Chinese bloggers, however, put the number at up to 2,000.

The China National Petroleum Corporation plans to build a chemical plant in the nearby town of Anning to produce 500,000 tonnes of PX annually.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-22411012

Peter99 (1246 posts) • 0

"The mountains are high and the emperor is far away". Thats the old bandit days saying of Yunnan. The Wild West of China. Recently the slogan has taken a more modern, sophisticated, context.

laotou (1714 posts) • 0

I'm not too clear on whether the government will tightly monitor the environmental impacts from the industries, but I do know that Yunnan suffers from an embedded social malaise. For over 20 years since the central government formally put the West on its roadmap to development, Yunnan has steadfastly refused to budge - essentially fostering a rather welfare oriented state.

Historically, when China needed to change a culture (for a variety of reasons), they'd effect massive immigration into an area. The refinery and chemical plant popped in without much ado - but they will bring in a massive influx of non-Yunnan labor - in addition to providing local jobs.

I see these plants - environmental issues aside - as attempts by the central government, to dilute the entrenched malaise with fresh blood and truthfully, I hope it works...with minimal environmental impact.

Geezer (1953 posts) • 0

I am not too sure of an embedded social malaise in Yunnan unless you are referencing the numerous indigenous peoples or 民族。 It is true that China has encouraged or caused migrations of Han to remote areas for a variety of political and social reasons. My feeling is that Han perceptions of 民族, other races, cultures and nationalities tends to be developed from the superior position. True or not, I feel the issue is not of malaise but of money and statistics.

Development, East, West, or wherever is driven by finance. The government was slow to encourage Western development because the West is, well, far from home and often occupied by lazy, uneducated other people. Once the coastal areas became developed the costs of continuing to use increasingly scarce coastal resources and migrant labor, someone reached the conclusion that there was a huge amount of cheap land and cheaper labor to be had in the West. The money, however, was slow to come. Perhaps the splitist movements in Tibet and Xin Jiang provided the clarion call, or, maybe it was that some accounting calculations were made, or, the realization that the yuan input-to-output ratio was better, or... who knows. The march to the West began.

Oil refineries and chemical plants are not highly labor intensive. The number of jobs for the investment is low. It is true the labor needs to be higher skilled but often, as in the case of rat for sheep, that can be avoided.

What is true, is that oil refineries and chemical plants have a higher potential for pollution, deadly pollution, than other types of industries. So far, over the last 30 years, the government has not demonstrated leadership or the ability to act in addressing the growing pollution crisis in China. Originally, pollution was considered one of the costs of development and routinely dismissed as 'we can't help it'. Actually, pollution has only two causes; ignorance or greed. Some pollution occurs because of a lack of education or knowledge and this produces unfortunate results. But most pollution is the result of economic decisions made to economize or avoid costs. Leaders, in both SOE and SME enterprises, will avoid investing in pollution abatement as the investment, operating costs, and disposal costs are considered 'avoidable.' Any vague possible problem 10 to 20 years in the future just can't get in the way of today's rewards.

An oil refinery or a chemical plant is a high ticket item. These fall into the investment part of GDP calculations. They also have an economic value, a few jobs, yes, but clearly economically viable. Build a few plants and you get the GDP hit. Operate them and repay the loans, add to yearly GDP, and all is well.

A waste water treatment plant is relatively low cost, takes a lot of land, and requires never ending operating costs. The GDP impact falls way behind building a 30 floor apartment building on the same bit of land then dumping waste water into Dianchi. Not an attractive investment, water treatment is a shitty business to boot.

yankee00 (1632 posts) • 0

there's a petition circulating for a similar issue, calling for the us administration. Signatures are going up quite quickly. Not sure if it's the same thing though

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