@tigertiger
would you not mean NE corner instead ? because NW corner is Kunming Fandian, and I don't recall any shop or restaurant on that corner (last time = 2009, not so old). Probably are you refering to the restaurant that is more or less attached to Mamafu's, no ?
As for the "legit massage" business that is attached to Camelia (inside one of the buildings, with the entertainment part, right ?), let me tell you this story : yes, I experienced that joint. What an adventure ! I went there very innocently wanting a good back massage after a long day's walk, and I ended up with woman whose tits had seemingly been pumped up, and were almost hanging out of her bra, while she was dead trying to convince me to go beyond the normal massage. the situation was hillarious, as I did not want at all any "happy ending" services, and so she thought that it was just a technique of mine to bargain the price !
...in the end, without my having said a single word of bargain, she was offering to give me the whole big game for just only 50 RMB !!!
And as for the upper body massage on the pavement outside Camelia, yes, I did that too once during one of my stays, and how ever nice these people were, I ended up with my back and neck muscles in greater pain than before !!!
No, I'm really looking for a relaxing massage, in a nice institue, where it doesn't always smell like insence and medicinal plants and oils.
I want something more up range, done by women with firm although soft touch and pressure, but no hanky-panky.
@GBTEXDOC
Same goes for foot massage, I want a confortable place, with hostesses at the front desk, a private baoxiang for two or three, a plate with nice and fresh sliced fruit, tea or coffe as you want, big TV screen, and people bringing wooden buckets with tea, herbs and flower petals inside to wash your feet, etc...
That kind of massage lasts generally for an hour, and if it is well done, it sets you asleep after 30 minutes !
You know, I used to live here, and also elsewhere in China, went out a lot and so on... so when I come back, I generally know what I want, and I want it well done, with the kind of comfort and service excellency that you can only get in China, for a ridiculously small portion of the price of that in the west.
Don't you guys ever head to such beauty or massage parlours ?
If not, then let me tell you that you don't know what you're missing !