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any western doctor /hospital ?

kathryn (27 posts) • 0

Where is the most reliable place for an x-ray or ultrasound?
i know english speaking doctors are hard to come by...but a little spoken english would be a help.

bochi (11 posts) • 0

Warning! There is a new women's hospital in town. It is heavily advertised everywhere. The name is Kunming He Wan Jia Fu Ke Hospital. Fu Ke means gynecology in Chinese. My Chinese wife went there for menstrual problems.

They diagnosed it as a uterine infection and wanted to perform a surgical operation prior to which she had several days of 'cleansing' and the usual IV drips. We became suspicious that they were more interested in our money and went for a second opinion.
After two second opinions at two different hospitals it was confirmed the not only was the surgery they recommended not necessary neither were their 'treatments"!
Reminded me of my experience at Richland.

You have been warned. Don't let anyone you care about go there.

Liumingke1234 (3297 posts) • 0

I went to Yunnan Lithiasis Hospital because I thought I might have a kidney stone(turns out I didn't have one). It cost me about 53 yuan. My experience was good. My wife is Chinese so it was that much easier. The doctor seems diappointed that I didn't have one. Just wanted to let you know.

stevo (2 posts) • 0

I had my prenatal care at Maria hospital. I did not like the care there and decided to switch to Richland -where I gave birth last month. The cost was the same with Maria and Richland only I had a private room and my husband could be with me the entire time. I had the same doctor of my choice the whole time and they called her in the middle of the night for delivery. I have no real complaints! When things were offered -asked of me or the baby that I didn't want I explained how I wanted things and they were done all my way! If you have any questions I'm happy to answer. I also have them following a thyroid problem -I get my own results and self medicate -they don't like my levels but never give me trouble or have me see a doctor -I just get the labs and leave. I don't know how they would handle a real problem as my delivery was smooth with no problems.

seahorse62 (141 posts) • 0

Stevo I have a couple of questions for you if you don't mind. Could you send me your email at i_wish_i_were_a_seahorse@yahoo.com

Greginchina (239 posts) • 0

like stevo we are using the richland for ante-natal and birth.

While i understand and appreciate the concerns mentioned in this thread and I might think twice about going there for something minor or for something major which may need Bangkok or Singapore, we've had nothing but good experiences in their OBGYN department.

Most Kunming hospitals don't allow the father to be present at birth, have doctors who prod and poke in ante-natal sessions far harder than is necessary causing unnecessary discomfort, have communal toilets for delivering mothers, do not recognise any other birthing position than on your back with your legs in the air etc....

The Richland has proven both accommodating and caring but also knowledgeable and precautionary. One of the most important things for childbirth is comfort and the Richland seems to recognize this while still paying careful attention to all the other factors.

seahorse62 (141 posts) • 0

Thanks Greg this is very good to know. We really don't want and can't afford to take off the Thailand for a couple of months. How do you get an appointment and does anyone in the OBGYN dept speak any English? Also I looked at Richland's website and was wondering about this membership plan. Do you have to have it? We have insurance from the US that covers us overseas.

sauterelle (2 posts) • 0

We just had a baby at Richland, not having known about this thread before. We have had previous birth experiences with a certified midwife and at the U of Chiang Mai hospital. Richland was the poorest experience and the most expensive, but thankfully mother and baby are healthy. It was not as bad as it sounds like many hospitals are, no stirrups, no forced epidural or episotomy, no problems about husband in room or rooming in with the baby.

However, though we had been told directly by the doctor that an IV would not be required prior to any trauma, the same doctor insisted on an IV at the start even though there was no signs of trouble at any point (the labor was short and without complications). The nurse inserting the IV seemed inexperienced at finding a vein and the needle caused quite a bit of pain throughout the night, but the nurses refused to allow it to be removed, even when the original litre of saline was empty.

We never saw the MD again after the birth, and no checkup of either the mother or baby was offered before checking out. The excessive advice from the nurses was contradictory and a mixture of traditional foolishness (no baths for mother for a month), the worst of old-fashioned medicine (the baby is so hungry, she needs formula and water, not just breast milk), and a unwillingness on the part of some, though not all, to do or find someone to do general house-cleaning chores by the nurses (bed sheets not changed for three days, bath towel only provided after four requests, etc., we cleaned the bathroom ourselves.) Several times we were told, "that's not my job, wait she comes back at 2..." or else we were just told "一会儿" (in a while) and never got a response.

Smoking is not actively controlled in the hospital, so was a general stench of cigarettes on the maternity floor during the daytime outpatient hours and a liquified-gas-burning outdoor heater is set up near the nurses station to warm the nurses with no ventilation. (The nurses confidently told us that the gas-burning heater produced no fumes.) We were charged Y1000 more than the stated cost on the printed brochures in the lobby and offered three different flimsy explanations, yet they could produce an itemized receipt from their computer system to account for the disparity, and so finally left after waiting for an hour without detailed receipt.

However, the hospital staff were generally friendly to us, and to a certain degree we were able to persuade them that we weren't complete idiots and actually knew a bit about caring for a newborn (we brought the other kids for proof).

There were a few folks that did seem to be trying hard to help us within what appeared to be a very poorly managed system, and they were very prompt about producing a birth certificate.

It is far inferior to the several Thai hospitals we have used in Chiang Mai and Bangkok and more expensive, and as far as we could tell none of the doctors or nurses on call at night speak English functionally (fortunately we speak Chinese), and none of the "essential information" provided the patient is in English, except for the Yunnan Province vaccination record book, so Richland is not necessarily any more user-friendly for giving birth if one doesn't speak much Chinese than non "international" hospitals in Kunming, though they do try to have an English speaker at the door during outpatient hours.

But to put it back in perspective, none of the frustrations we experienced put us in danger at any point, as far as we could just as non-medical professionals, the medical care was adequate, it was just the patient/customer services aspect that was lacking, and of course cultural differences about how to care for newborns. In spite of it's claim to be "international" if there are any doctors or nurses educated outside of mainland working there to bring a more international perspective, we never met them. Though it looks different from other local hospitals in that they have nicer facilities, equipment, etc. all the doctors and staff we met appear to be trained at the same schools that the the other doctors and nurses in Kunming are, and therefore their approach to medicine seems to be a combination of traditional Chinese, traditional 1950s Western medicine, and some more modern ideas about childbirth. Probably the best thing about Richland compared to other local hospitals is that it has very few inpatients, so it's not very crowded, one doesn't have to queue for the elevator, it's somewhat quiet at night, etc. If you anticipate a smooth delivery and speak Chinese fairly well and can afford it (Y6000 - Y10,000 according to the material in the lobby, though you'll probably be charged more than that), then it could be a good option.

RabbitEx (5 posts) • 0

Hello, I suspect I got Chlamidia (a sexually transmitted genital infection).

Can someone recommend of a trusted urologist with an advanced enough testing equipment/lab test quality ?

Appreciate your help !

bethinkunming (6 posts) • 0

Where is the best place to get care for an eye infection (possibly viral or bacterial) and sore throat and swollen lymph glands. Thanks! (And where is the best place to get safe medication?)

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