One of the problems discussing contemporary politics is the left's incessant demand that all be give an identity. This attempt to simplify debate lacks intellectual courage.

You put me in an American box, or, a White male box, or, a right winger box and then apply all your preconceived stereotypical attributes to what ever box you decide I belong in. At that point are convinced you have me figured out.

But, it seems people are more complex.

At your table, how do you deal with someone that rejects your vision?

How do you deal with the one, or a few, who are steadfast in alternative solutions. The ones that want to do, or believe, something different?

Answering those questions would entail a long discussion, to be held at the table. Anyway, it wouldn't be the way the US Democratic Party does it.

On the other hand, at present one pretty much has to use whatever tables are available, or can be constructed with our limited means.

so lets pigeonhole everyone by accusing them of pigeonholing, and refusing to budge on the issue. or gerrymander the argument until we all get bored. the modern pi55ing contest is just a variation of the irresistible force meets the immovable object. repeat after me, the world is flat, the world is flat, the world is flat, until all alternative views have been spoken and people give up speaking and yours is the only message left because you are the only one speaking. therefore the world must be flat, because only the scientists who say it is flat are left speaking, the other scientists were shouted down or shot down, or otherwise vilified or shut down

@Geezer. Yes the Democratic community, if Democrats actually are Democratic. If people are going to vote, the way the system works must be understood by all so that there the newly elected presidents may take over office more smoothly. Otherwise the country may as well be totalitarian to ease the riots and declining civilization of it. The lack of coercive control of the people strolling around with weapons and ammo bought straight from the corner shop or found in granddad's garage is something we agree on and I reckon a harder stance is in order.

@vicar: Well, the basic ideas of the system must also be understood if you want to change it, or even to influence the way that it is, superficially at least, always changing - systems exist in minds, but material reality is never quite the same, and there's a lot of iceberg beneath the waterline. We all know this in principle, but our commonsense understanding that this is true is not nearly sufficient, and i lack confidence that the Democratic Party is likely to enlighten us, or even that the party hierarchy really understands it. Certainly requires more than my opinions to do so.

@elizaj
It seems this post went a little off-topic.

Thank you for your valuable and voluntary service for American Citizen Expats, living in and around the gokm sphere of influence.

1. Do you coordinate or work with the US Consulate in Chengdu?

2. How is your service different, supplemental, or complementary to the US Consulate's support (aside from potentially copious and gratuitous democratic party specific voting and election literature)?

@Geezer

Europe is socialist, is that not a powerful, weathly place?

Perhaps the wealth is more easily spread in socialism and not flaunted as much by the very few, as in the american system.

Perhaps wealth isn't considered as important in socialism as the state supplies healthcare, education and so on, limiting money's importance.

If you place money at the heart of a country's success then Saudi, Oman, Brunei etc must be your utopia. I'm glad that life has worked out for you and you feel you need not address the issues or the people which socialism takes under its arm.

Socialism has never been tried in America，don't knock it until you've tried it.

Good question michael2015 and one which the Americans must consider with care. Somehow, I doubt the US Consulate would be supporting the Demo Community.

Before doing the above you'd better decided what you mean by 'socialist'. For me, the social democracy of Europe is, basically, capitalism with fairly advanced social welfare - socialism to me means the public ownership of the major means of production. There are varieties of the same, and varieties as to how such an economic arrangement has been or might be governed. And then there's the question of just how much of the means of production is publicly owned.
Naturally, the US Consulate cannot support the Demo Community, as it is a party organization (apparently) rather than a governmental one. Though that doesn't mean they couldn't cooperate with it concerning voter registration etc. But we might get clearer answers from the initiator of the thread.