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Just to be clear, in case someone comes to this thread on page 3 and draws the wrong conclusion about the rental multiplier. The rental multiplier does not set the property value. It is just a crude indicator to the level of property prices, i.e. overpriced (bubble) or under priced (depressed). I have heard figures of 200-300x being used to describe a sensible level, but that is of course subjective. I have only heard it used in this way, for the domestic property market.
As for leasing values of commercial property, that is a totally different market. People buy commercial property with the aim to earn/rent it out usually, and not as an investment. About 5 years ago we were quoted commercial property rents in Kunming (not in prime locations) that were higher than they were in comparable districts (not prime locations) in Shanghai. I cannot suggest reasons for this particular form of madness, except just dumb avarice.

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Ah! but what do they mean by "non-residents of Yunnan"? This sounds like Chinese nationals not resident in Yunnan. Which would allow non-locals to cross these borders.

This would not include foreigners.
As for the number, 13 re-open, when some were not closed. That is typical of the way things often get reported in some parts of the world. Like the list of 700 universities was published and China had x number in the 'TOP 700 world ranked universities'.

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Yes, I think Alex has a point. In Hangzhou (and other cities I have visited) it is organised. The vendors have a table and the tables are in clearly defined rows (some streets 4 rows, wider parts 6 rows). The pedestrians can navigate through the night markets.
The big advantage of tables is that you don't get the sprawl across the pavement, and there are clear walkthroughs. The other thing is that there are no people selling out of the trunk of the car, this alone takes up a lot of room.
Outside Sal's a few months back there was a problem, because there was no way to get onto the sidewalk to park a bike. Putting aside the rights and wrongs of who did what, it was the over abundance of street vendors that was the root cause.

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This has moved.
The cut flowers are about 700m east on Duonan Jie. The plants and trees are about 700 m west and follow Duocai Section.

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A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.

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Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.

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In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.