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Just to be clear, in case someone comes to this thread on page 3 and draws the wrong conclusion about the rental multiplier. The rental multiplier does not set the property value. It is just a crude indicator to the level of property prices, i.e. overpriced (bubble) or under priced (depressed). I have heard figures of 200-300x being used to describe a sensible level, but that is of course subjective. I have only heard it used in this way, for the domestic property market.
As for leasing values of commercial property, that is a totally different market. People buy commercial property with the aim to earn/rent it out usually, and not as an investment. About 5 years ago we were quoted commercial property rents in Kunming (not in prime locations) that were higher than they were in comparable districts (not prime locations) in Shanghai. I cannot suggest reasons for this particular form of madness, except just dumb avarice.

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Safe swimming, even for the body conscious.
About 1km north of Haikou is the village of Reshuitang热水塘. There is a beach and lots of peddle boats. Lots of people are taking the peddle boat out a few hundred meters to swim. These peddle boats are about 4m long by 3m wide, and make a big enough platform to go out, play, picnic for the day, and swim. There is even a rope ladder over the side to help getting on and off the boat. The boats are 30rmb/hr or 50rmb unlimited, well worth the money.
You can get a long way away from anyone else for a bit of privacy, you could even skinny dip, or topless sunbathe if you miss that. Nearly all of the local swimmers are using floatation and so you need not be embarrassed about that. For those who are not extroverts, or have children, or just want privacy, this is a great option. Don't leave your sunscreen in the car like I did.

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I think that they may be at it again.
We went to our open air market today and was told that it was closed until 16th, because of some civilized thing.
The workers are trawling through the local streams clearing out the weeds near where we live.
At 8am this morning there were uniformed traffic personnel along Dianchi Lu, and the uniforms looked bright/new.

Has anyone else seen or heard anything?

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Big thumbs up. This is a really useful article. The Metro has opened up new travel opportunities for us, and you are right, most of us don't have the time to randomly explore the city, but articles like this let us know about previously unknown (to the reader) places to visit.
Nice one!

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The cut flowers are about 700m east on Duonan Jie. The plants and trees are about 700 m west and follow Duocai Section.

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A reasonable choice of lumber that has improved over time. Fancy hardwoods like walnut, and mahogany are in abundance. There are some plywood and rubber-wood boards available. There are also some kiln dried imported softwoods and merbao available. Some of the lumber is very green, so look for the kiln dried if you need stable timbers.

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Echo everything said by others.
Breakfast great and the serve from 8am. Most other places say 9am and they still are not ready.
Sandwiches are cheap 22-32, and really packed full of filling. We got some sandwiches for a day out, the only mistake I made was ordering two, as this was too much. These are seriously good sangars, and they are wrapped in alu foil.

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In fairness to Metro, they are a wholesalers, and not really a supermarket. Hence the need for a card, which can be got around.

They have improved in the year I have been away. They now carry a more consistent range of imported foodstuffs and they also seem to have sorted out the mported milk supply.

They have a wider range of electrical appliances now, there is a coice of more than one toast. There is also a better range of seasonal non foods, like clothes, shoes, garden furniture and camping gear.