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Forums > Living in Kunming > Tasty local everyday food

I thought it would be good if we posted up our favourite local foods for a quick snack or lunch. I figure this will be good for us language learners and new people coming to Kunming - we can try everyone elses favourites, get more local exposure and a great way to eat more yummy (and cheap!) food.

I think from the outset though we should set a few limits. This has to be local food, under 20 kuai, available for lunch/dinner and tasty. This isn't meant to be a review of a particular place, rather a guide for what to eat if you want some tasty local food but don't know what to eat or how to order. In saying that though, I think we can mention where we have bought the item so others can share.

One of my favourites is xiǎo guō mǐ xiàn 小锅米线. This usually goes for between 5-15 kuai depending on how flash the eaterie is and how big the serving. Its a spicy noodle soup, usually cooked with a little bit of meat, spring onion, noodles and lots of yummy spicy goodness. Basically any noodle shop will probably sell this, to order, say "xiǎo guō mǐxiàn". They will probably ask you "dà wǎn, xiǎo wǎn" (big bowl, small bowl), tell them what you are after. You can usually get takeaway as well (can be a bit messy though, careful!), to get takeaway ask for dǎbāo, they may charge you extra for the container. Like I said, you can get this pretty much any noodle shop, but note that some are considerably better than others.

Another little gem, particularly if you want something that isn't oily, spicy, plain simple good food (great for visitors from the west who aren't used to the spice etc!) is xiǎo guō cài 小锅菜. This is usually a small pot of soup, filled with vegetables, some meat, maybe tofu and noodles. Usually it comes with a bowl of rice. The soup is usually clear and not oily. This is what I usually go for if I want something pretty healthy, not dripping with oil, not spicy, but still super tasty. The variations on xiǎo guō cài though are numerous, I am describing what I get from a place two doors east from Orielly's pub on the same side of the pedestrian street. Theirs is particularly nice! To order is pretty straight forward, ask for "xiǎo guō cài", they may ask you what meat you want, usually I go for jī ròu, however this is up to you. The cost for this is usually between 10-20 kuai. Note a lot of places will specifically ask if you want to takeaway or not, eating in is zài zhèlǐ chī.

The last one I will share is for us westerners who love hot chips! A lot of places around serve a spicy variety of deep fried potato that is particularly unhealthy but so tasty! Basically they chop up potatoes into odd sized chunks, deep fry them, cover them in a spicy mixture and put them in a box for you to eat using a toothpick. This is a super tasty and cheap snack you can find from lots of places. Usually they are in a little shop, but you see some people who are mobile with carts around the place. To order, ask for yáng yuè. They may ask if you want a big box or a small box, da he or xiao he respectively. Cost is usually between 3 and 5 kuai.

Anyone else care to share their favourite local cheap local foods?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Fire up Changchong Shan, east side routes closed

Hi all, I tried to do my usual run today up Changchong Shan however most routes up are either closed or in the process of being closed up by (I am assuming) forestry or council workers. I am guessing this is due to the fire on the top of the hill that destroyed all the vegetation on the east side from the top to about 100m (vertical height) down the east side of the hill.

I am guessing some idiot took fireworks up there which lit half the hill on fire...

I went around the obstructions, there were 2 on the way up on each path, so I am guessing they really don't want people up there. As I wasn't carrying any matches/lighter/fireworks/glass, I decided I was responsible enough to not light a fire and went to the top. Got some pics on my phone (pretty low quality) here:

One blockage (anyone care to interpret the sign? My Chinese isn't that good yet!)
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The top, which used to be a pretty basin filled with grass
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One path going down
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Another blockage with a more detailed sign (interpreting again anyone?)
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The firemen that controlled the fire did a great job as the whole hillside is tinder dry. I am assuming though the tracks will be reopened once they deem the fire risk to be lower?? Hopefully they aren't closed permanently! Any other mountains around in the North that are good for running?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Slow Lorises

While I completely applaud the sentiment Mike and love the videos...

Do you know how long these have been in captivity? Also... your release point... do you know if this was close to food sources for them or another population? I am asking as sometimes people that re-release animals into the wild without any research sometimes do more harm than good. Animals that have been in captivity all their lives don't know what to eat or sometimes how, are released into areas without any food or any number of other factors which could result in a pretty quick death... contacting a zoo first to ask the advice of some experts would have been a good idea... they may have even sent you GPS tags to track their progress!

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Anything happening on Chinese NY's?

Usually everyone goes back to their home town so the streets are pretty empty :-)

Of course as more people end up living, being born and growing up in Kunming, more people will start calling Kunming home. So theoretically there should be more and more people here every year...

I was here last year for CNY and hung out with some Chinese friends here. We let off fireworks and there was a big fireworks display at the Tudong stadium, not far from Wenlin Jie...

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But to the story - I had no idea that different provinces could implement laws differently! There should be no way for Yunnan to be more lenient than other provinces, that is a severe failure of the Chinese justice system (or the Chinese guanxi based punishment system, whichever you prefer!).

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I have taken drugs before, LSD when I was younger. My friends did also. That was over 15 years ago now and all of us are now fully capable and contributing members of society today. Not one of us had our relationships break down or adverse affects of our drug taking, which occurred 1-3 times for all of us before we all made a pact not to ever do it again after a bad experience.

So we should all be executed HFCAMPO? Or is there a statute of limitations for your new law? Or do you decide how it is implemented? What if you found out your son/daughter was peer pressured into taking a drug. Instant execution? You are OK with that?

Your broad sweeping assumptions "Casual drug users do affect others you just don't know about it." should be the downfall of your argument.

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Alien, there is a clear definition of a troll, look it up. Because others use it here when they should not, is not my problem.

HFCAMPO posted that all drug users should be put to death and he has just said that the statement is not sarcastic. If you do not believe that fits into a category of being "deliberately inflammatory to provoke reaction", I aren't sure what is. He has stated a zero tolerance, capital punishment extremist viewpoint. He then insulted me for telling a simple anecdote, in another attempt to provoke a reaction.

This would be fine if he framed his statements as a matter of opinion. But he has done it with a tone which brooks no argument so that it is not a matter of opinion, it is a matter of fact. You can tell this because he simply insults anyone who disagrees with him, even in the slightest. He then stated that he is an expert on the matter as he willingly joined an army and worked in the area. And this army was controlled by a government which exhorts the exact opposite of the values he purports to uphold. Either he holds two different viewpoints simultaneously or holds one and deliberately posts the other to provoke a response. I am fairly certain it is the latter.

Is it your genuine opinion HFCAMPO that all drug users should be put to death? My anecdote still holds, just replace "smoking a joint" with "popping a tab of acid". Do you believe all young people who are peer pressured into taking LSD, for instance, should be put to death?

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A troll HFCAMPO is someone who posts something on a thread in order to deliberately cause a reaction. Clearly your first 2 posts were exactly that, you somewhat clarified your position in the third post, but not at all clearly, it appears you were being sarcastic?

You have started an inflammatory discussion, appeared to have changed your mind, insulted me for simply adding an anecdote after reading your first posts...

And you still have the temerity to call others trolls?

It appears you get a buzz out of being a troll yourself then pretending you are not. The only one who is laughing is yourself, in your own head, the rest of us are shaking our head in wonderment. I guess the joke is on me for being your troll bait.

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Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.

We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.

If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.

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Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!

One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)

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This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.

You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.

Great bus though if you can catch it!

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Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!

English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!