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It's all a nice history lesson laotou, but you still refuse to recognise that the young people of HK have genuine grievances. These aren't just foreign influence sycophants that you seem to suggest, in fact, that line reads far too close to the rhetoric of the Chinese government to be taken seriously. Do you really believe that is the truth? It is worth noting public foreign support of HKers in this action appears AFTER not before...

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Viewed through an historical looking glass and as someone who is relatively impartial, I tend to agree laotou.

But from the perspective of the young people alive right now who are threatened with the death of something very important to them (their identity, culture and opportunities), you are miles off.

It's fine to pass judgement from an armchair where those judgements don't affect you, but when your very way of life is threatened by those judgements it's a different story.

Young people I have talked to in Hong Kong most of all wish to protect their way of life and their unique cultural identity. They are angry because they have no power - all the decisions made about their future were negotiated between two foreign powers when they were in nappies or before, leaving them with little power or control of their future. They then see the very things that would allow them some level of autonomy and self determination being diluted or removed. These are genuine grievances they have, they are not just idealistic morons as you purport.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Does your gf pay rent?

The notion that a local dating a foreigner must be a whore is antiquated to say the least. This would have been the case a long time ago, anyone who thinks the same today in China likely has little education, has been living in a hole for 30 years and/or has deep nationalist sentiments making them rationalise Chinese/foreigner relationships by marginalising the Chinese side.

Most Chinese ask my wife if she is my guide first, a few are surprised when she responds "lao po". Only one has ever asked her how much she is getting paid a night, they were drunk and received the most vicious tirade I have ever heard from her. He ran away pretty quickly after he realised the game was up, there was no defence for such an idiotic notion in today's China.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Taxis 'AGAIN'

It has been happening more and more to me too, when by myself. When I finally get a taxi I usually ask the driver why others drive past me, they usually say its because they are too nervous - they don't speak English and are scared of offending tourists! Pretty funny, but there it is.

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Nestle - commonly voted as one of the worst companies in the world as it supports child slavery on the Ivory Coast and has, for years, pushed infant milk formula in poor countries as being "better than breast". Be very careful about giving them any kudos for their perceived support of local farmers, most likely they are simply looking for a cheaper way to get their product and don't care if getting their product means breaking labour laws or damaging the environment. They have consistently shown they are a company which does anything at all to improve their bottom line whether completely illegal or morally grey.

Actually, that link I provided stated that the biggest plant processes 1 billion litres a DAY not a YEAR as I stated. Which means they can process 1.38 billion m3 of water a year! That's an astronomical amount... especially considering its only for 5 million consumers... most likely its industry as well.

So the one they are proposing is still entirely possible, it would be under half the size of the worlds biggest.

Check out this:

www.algor.com/news_pub/cust_app/jardine/jardine.asp

The worlds largest water treatment plant processes 1 billion gallons a year. 1 m3 = 264 gallons. Therefore the worlds largest plant processes around 3.8 million m3 a year. But that is for drinking water, maybe these plants will filter to a lesser degree?

Dianchi has a surface area of 298 km2 and a mean depth of (a measly) 4.4m which gives a volume of 1.3 billion m3 (my maths right?). Which means with a couple of plants they could filter the whole of Dianchi in a year! Something tells me that's not quite right...

Besides, this will process the water flowing from a river right? I suppose 19m3 a second is about right for a river flow though, but a pretty big river, like the size of this one:

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Applegate_River

I haven't seen one that big around Dianchi though... I think someone's screwed the numbers somewhere.

Remember that these plants may not operate 24/7/365 as well which makes it look even more unlikely.

Oh yeah, and is that figure right?

"clean an estimated 600 million cubic meters of water annually"

That works out to be around 1100 cubic metres of water every minute (or 19 cubic metres every second)! And that's if its going 365 days a year 24 hours a day... I would be highly surprised if this was accurate, but it could be, not sure how they clean the water...

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Wow, just wow. Possibly the best Chinese food I have had in Kunming. And in one of the nicest, traditional courtyard style restaurant I have been in. A woman dressed in traditional qi pao playing a gu zheng just adds to it.

We had okra, mushroom soup, dried beef and chou dofu. All top notch with the bill coming in at just over 250 kuai. But we could have fed 3 people for that so not too bad at about 80-90 kuai each. Not the cheapest but for the quality, it's damn good.

If you have people visiting and want to take them to a traditional Chinese style restaurant with Yunnan style food, or want a romantic night out with a gal, you can't go wrong here. Close to Green Lake (down a little alley) for a romantic walk... Just perfect.

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Pretty good place for getting all your documents translated and/or notarised. Note that there are a number of notaries in the building which you can find by going up the stairs (the elevators are impossible). But you have to find the stairs to do so... go in the door, head over to the right, go up the big wide stairs which head up a floor, turn right then right again into the elevator area and right again into the stairwells. Whew!

One point off for the elevators never being available and having to hike 7-9 flights of stairs (not good if you have to go 3-4 times a day like I often did!)

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This does not stop at the Jinanya hotel at Da Shang Hui as the flyers state (and is on the images tab here). They need to have another stop in the same area or else they are missing out on covering a big chunk of the city.

You can take another bus, the 919C, I believe, if you are nearby Da Shang Hui, which leaves from the bus station on HeHong Lu, nearby the Qianxing road intersection. This bus goes every hour and is white, found at the western end of the station. It is operated by a different company and takes about 1 hour 10 minutes to get to the airport due to a large number of stops especially near the airport.

Great bus though if you can catch it!

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Friendly people, even got to the talk to the vice consulate, who told me she had done a stint in Malaysia's Siberian Consulate!

English is spoken by some of the Chinese girls working at the desk who are pleasant to deal with. I assume they do Visa's as well but I wasn't here for a visa, this time!