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Forums > Living in Kunming > Looking for childfreindly activities

Lots of kids everywhere.

Often a few Chinese, non-Chinese & part Chinese kids at the DT Bar courtyard on Sunday afternoons after about 3:30, but they're mostly ages about 4-8. They run around and seem to be having a good time.

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@tiger: I take your point - Edward Bernays and his 1929 book PROPAGANDA - Goebbels liked it, and in the US it gave rise to the brainwarp albatross of modern commercial advertising, as well as PR, more sophisticated media manipulation, state & political propaganda, etc.

Japan & KFC does strike me as a bit sad.
Anyway, I ate well last night. Don't know if "the USA needs our support more than ever," but I didn't feel we were either supporting or not supporting anything, except a good group foody occasion, without flags, that has become an American tradition. The beer was German, the tequila Mexican.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Thanksgiving

@tiger: yes, but Thanksgiving is a family eating affair combined with a Thanks, God thing. China has plenty of excuses for family eating already (best example obviously Spring Festival), and not so much interest in thanking God for it. Halloween, on the other hand, is a riot of play that involves various evil beings, etc.; Chinese religion has plenty of beings, evil & otherwise; easy to see how all this appeals to the relatively young.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Thanksgiving

@redjon: It's not an international festival, just the American (and also Canadian) version of a harvest festival, seen in Christian religious terms thanks to the culture of the early Anglo Protestant colonizers of the northeast of what is now the US (not sure how Quebecois Catholics see the Canadian version). Has taken on a nationalist aura in the US. The Chinese harvest festival has already passed and is not seen as a nationalist thing. In both North America and China, a harvest festival is, unsurprisingly, mostly about family and cultural traditions, not political ones.

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I would think that bans on smoking in many environments in most parts of China would encounter similar disapproval by the majority of people, whether one considers it to be a good idea or not.

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Many of us who were around in the early 2000's are well aware of just how important John and Cas have been in the development of the local Western-derived local music culture - over the past 13 years there have been others as well, whom I do not mention here by name, despite their significance, simply out of a desire to be brief - but those who have come later and are not all that familiar with this development should understand that the Kunming laowai scene they found on arrival was the product of a lot of people and events that should entire history as we should know it.
I occasionally go to Chiang Mai, and I do not for a moment believe that this story, of music and enthusiasts and good irrascible performers, has come to and end - it's just spreading out.
Stories come to an end, but people are part of a longer phenomenon that does not.

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Incomes and social services and education in rural areas, in China as well as in a great many places, are appalling, not in comparison to what they once were, but in comparison to what they could be if the economy and the state worked well to put resources where they are needed.

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.