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Forums > Living in Kunming > Looking for childfreindly activities

Lots of kids everywhere.

Often a few Chinese, non-Chinese & part Chinese kids at the DT Bar courtyard on Sunday afternoons after about 3:30, but they're mostly ages about 4-8. They run around and seem to be having a good time.

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@tiger: I take your point - Edward Bernays and his 1929 book PROPAGANDA - Goebbels liked it, and in the US it gave rise to the brainwarp albatross of modern commercial advertising, as well as PR, more sophisticated media manipulation, state & political propaganda, etc.

Japan & KFC does strike me as a bit sad.
Anyway, I ate well last night. Don't know if "the USA needs our support more than ever," but I didn't feel we were either supporting or not supporting anything, except a good group foody occasion, without flags, that has become an American tradition. The beer was German, the tequila Mexican.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Thanksgiving

@tiger: yes, but Thanksgiving is a family eating affair combined with a Thanks, God thing. China has plenty of excuses for family eating already (best example obviously Spring Festival), and not so much interest in thanking God for it. Halloween, on the other hand, is a riot of play that involves various evil beings, etc.; Chinese religion has plenty of beings, evil & otherwise; easy to see how all this appeals to the relatively young.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Thanksgiving

@redjon: It's not an international festival, just the American (and also Canadian) version of a harvest festival, seen in Christian religious terms thanks to the culture of the early Anglo Protestant colonizers of the northeast of what is now the US (not sure how Quebecois Catholics see the Canadian version). Has taken on a nationalist aura in the US. The Chinese harvest festival has already passed and is not seen as a nationalist thing. In both North America and China, a harvest festival is, unsurprisingly, mostly about family and cultural traditions, not political ones.

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Something odd about the lengths of times listed - I think they must be for Chinese citizens. I have gotten the usual China-Laos visa at the border south of Jinghong about 6 times over the past 10 years: it always took me qabout 20 minutes, cost about US$35-40, and was good for a month (with US passport). Crossing from Hekou to Viet Nam, which I've done twice in the past 7 years, required that I get the visa in Kunming, but both times it was good for a month.

Have I read this thing wrong?

@atwilden, you're right, the whole concept of ownership in any form has always been an important social issue everywhere, with a tremendous variety of local solutions that have worked for a time, more or less, until they no longer worked - still, I like Sitting Bull's incredulousness at the idea of land ownership: the man was not stupid, and it raises basic questions. Then there's control of the seas, which has been in the news lately....as for asteroids, I dunno, but take a look at the machinations of 'the company' in the ALIEN films.

I wonder how long it will be until national regimes and/or private corporations start claiming they 'own' areas of the lunar surface. Read Sitting Bull's contemptuous comments on the White-American idea of land ownership in BURY MY HEART AT WOUNDED KNEE ("They say we sold the land but we never did. Sell the land? Why not sell the sky, and the moon and the stars?")

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Not quite what you'd call a jumping place, but not bad at all for rather standard US-type meals, not overly expensive, and with a really good salad bar that's cheap, or free with most dinner dishes after 5:30PM. You can get a bottle of beer or even wine if you really want to, but I've never seen anybody do it - maybe that's just to take out. Chinese Christian run, and they hire people with physical disadvantages, who are pleasant and helpful. Frequented by foreign (mostly North American) Christians and Chinese Christians - was started by a Canadian couple associated with Bless China (previously, Project Grace), who are no longer here, but no religious pressure or any of that. Steaks are nothing special, and I avoid the Korean dishes, which I've had a few times but which did not impress me.

As a shop and bakery, it's very good bread at reasonable prices, of various kinds (Y18 for a good multigrain loaf that certainly weighs well over a pound. Other stuff too, like granola and oatmeal that is local, as well as imported things, including American cornflakes and so forth, which some people seem to require.

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Large portions, seriously so with the pizza, which is Brooklyn/American style, I guess. Convivial, conversational, good place to drink with good folks on both sides of the bar, especially after about 9PM.

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Really good pizza and steaks. The wine machine fuddles me when I'm a bit fuddled, & seems unnecessary. Good folks on both sides of the bar.