Liumingke, what is this, politics as a football game?
Peter, isn't that what all questions are for?

Peter, is that supposed to be an argument for, or against, Trump & Co.?

@vicar: Sorry, I wasn't clear. I mean to make use of all the non-totalitarian institutions in the US and in a great number of other places as much as possible, even though they are dominated by the overall wealth/privilege/law/ownership/indoctrination/violence/inequality/labor exploitation racket. Any success on our part may well lead to repression by the powers that be, but in most places people are not under totalitarian control (and I rather think complete totalitarian control is probably impossible) and can hopefully get some things done before repression is instituted (indeed, the institutionalizing of real repressive measures can almost be seen as a compliment: "Thank you, man, you're finally taking us seriously!").

As Michael said, however, it's difficult to get various yahoos and others even interested enough in understanding their own situations (much less to take responsibility for how they may affect others, which is not always obvious) to be able to present a clear, reasoned and informed disagreement with what I'm saying - and to be honest enough to accept that an insult does not take the place of an argument until you don't want to reason anymore, but only to fight.
Actually, that's not even the worst, the worst is self-centered complacency and lack of honesty concerning personal responsibility. (i.e.: Bad Faith)...
Damn I've got to stop drinking all this coffee.

@vicar: No, America is not totalitarian. Different ways to skin a cat. We need to take advantage of the differences, as long as they last.
ps to Michael: As for Iran today, it's got a lot more going for it than Saudi Arabia does, or virtually any of the Arab countries, for that matter - not a population that needs to be bombed, invaded or controlled from Washington, projects that the relatively large Iranian population would strongly object to, to say the least.

@kurtosis: I'm not so much disagreeing with you as pointing out that although the bacteria, parasites, etc., may well be more numerous here than in some other places, everybody everywhere develops some immunity to these things (including all of us, wherever we grew up) - the significant factor is not just the 'amount' of bad things out there but the differences between them and the ones we're used to.
Fortunately, our bodies adapt pretty well, but making too great an attempt to protect them from doing so means continuing problems, as well as limitations on social life - well, not that this necessarily involves stinky tofu.