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Forums > Living in Kunming > owners association?

On a related topic.

Published this morning is a SCMP piece depicting the spillover effects of indebted developers on their property management subsidiaries. Financial strains of property managers may further fuel unresolved issues of homeowners as mentioned above:

www.scmp.com/[...]

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"Shares of most Chinese property management firms, once a darling of investors, have been beaten down in recent months as the woes of their parent companies spill over"

- "Property managers are being used as a financial tool by distressed developers to bail them out of sticky situations, JPMorgan says"

"At its height, 18 Chinese property managers, most of them spun off from their parent developers, went public in 2020, nearly double that in 2019 and four times that in 2018...

To raise money, embattled developers are turning to their property management units. Some like Modern Land have sold their stake in such units, while others have opted to sell the core asset of their property management units."

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Blog Reporting vs News Reporting

Little Red Book (小红书) does that. The platform has been gaining traction for a while now. Blogging about Kunming in English would help you stand out from Chinese bloggers/vloggers.

Like Weibo, politically sensitive topics would be moderated by their own if not flagged, as the company would be held accountable for not doing so.

No homegrown, tech company is safe from scrutiny these days.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > owners association?

Infiltration for spying or comraderie sabotage is bound to happen in these WeChat groups when money is involved.

Screening process as group head (群主) endowing banning privileges is at one's disposal. Over time, the real owners will differentiate themselves from infiltrators. The branching out to a separate subgroup for private discussions with regulars who've earned their badges would naturally occur. The main Wechat group would intentionally be kept. Strategic ambiguity and misinformation would be released to previous discussion group to mislead prying eyes.

In the good, the bad, and the ugly analogy, Junfa and developers like Vanke are among "the good." Positioning themselves as the more responsible companies, they'd try to maintain positive after-sales koubei as one of selling points for long-term competitive advantage in the housing market. They may address plumbing and flooding within the residences' apartment, even as warranty period (房屋保修期) expires after the post-delivery window.

If newer phase development is ongoing, beyond the current unsold apartments, developers and their property management arms would capitulate more to owners' complaints. Inspections pending need to be passed, so developers in these situations may bend further to be in local governments' good graces. Making complaints to 经开区 have more bite in these circumstances.

As long as potential customers' beaten path to the 样品屋 show room is beautified, lesser developers focusing soely on near-term transactions wouldn't bother fixing internal problems unseen by unsuspecting buyers strolling into premises with cursory glances.

In older compounds where projects have been completed, summoning 市长热线 (mayor's office) in some cases wouldn't be enough to pressure the bad and the ugly ones to right their wrongs. Tough ordeal hunting down companies that went under.

Perhaps 诉讼 (litigation) would be an option if all else fails. Legal fees in Yunnan are much cheaper than those in Shanghai, but would increase incrementally per owner/client participation.

Rowdy demonstrations by owners are less favorable these days, though a last resort for older generations. Being a foreigner involved in these ruckus may spare you from a local police arrest if push comes to shove during an all out protest. Locals are treated more harshly than foreigners in the event authorities come to shut down the "social unrest." Testing this out is probably not recommended in these volatile times.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > owners association?

业主群 for your particular compound may be found on WeChat social circles.

You would have more chances of finding owners association on WeChat if residential communities are larger and newer. Recent buyers have more to gripe about en masse after rushed deliveries by developers (to avoid accruing penalties from breach of contract).

Such relatively younger owners are keen to search each other out for strength in numbers.

One caveat is the most vocal "leaders" of the pack, or those with legal background, would be sought out by the opposition for pacification in private.

The grim reality of these owner associations is that personal benefits would be sought by the few over the good of the collective when given the opportunity to choose. It's not always a zero sum game in the Mainland when bilateral negotiations are concerned for multiple parties.

Start a virtual owners association on WeChat as 群主 if you can't find an existing one. Participants gradually increase in numbers as online group discussions of how your developer or property management suck. Eventually the WeChat community of 12 angry owners may morph into actual physical encounters. Nothing like sharing common goals and a common enemy to unite total strangers.

For older residential compounds, regulars who are often seen exercising in the public spaces may have formed clusters of their own cliques to address matters with the property management pertaining to resolving their specific needs. Accost them at your own discretion.

Property management fees may include 维修金 (renovation fund) which property management allegedly uses to fix things like elevators, or repair the cosmetics of common areas. If their books aren't transparent, 物业 may skimp regular servicing to pocket more profit.

That's when you and your fellow compatriots threaten them with #12345 national hotline complaints, or with the local 经开区, if initial protests failed to reap results. The developer of your community may still operate your property management in-house, or under a separate business entity if not outsourced/contract out. Know thy enemy.

Owners association are feared by property management, so naturally they won't navigate you to a congregation of owners to protest against them.

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Update: Kunming Metro Line 9 (construction period '22 to '26), Line 8, and Line 7; Anning Line, Songming Line have new progress

"Yesterday (March 15), the website of the Kunming Development and Reform Commission publicly released 380 key projects (excluding real estate projects) to be implemented in Kunming in 2022, including 200 projects under construction and 140 newly started projects. There are 40 preliminary projects, and the preliminary work is carried out as planned.

In the list of these project schedules, we have been concerned about the Kunming Metro Line 6 Phase III, Line 7, Line 8, Line 9, Anning Line, Songming Line and other rail transit projects.

Among these key projects under construction in the investment plan, the urban rail transit has Line 5, the second phase of Line 2, the northwest extension of Line 1, and the parking lot of Line 8 (Huayugou parking lot).

(chart in Chinese)
dingyue.ws.126.net/[...]

Key newly-started investment projects include Kunming Rail Line 9 Project, Line 6 Phase III Project, and Rail Transit Guangwei Da Driving and Repairing Base.

(chart in Chinese)
dingyue.ws.126.net/[...]

In addition, regarding the Kunming rail transit project, the municipal key preliminary projects in 2022 include the engineering track Line 7, Songming Line, Line 8, Anning Line, etc."

(chart in Chinese)
dingyue.ws.126.net/[...]

source: inf.news/ne/society/817a4f3e04dee5223188b6730582f42d.html

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Line 9 (Dabanqiao North – Shizhaishan):

Stations: Dabanqiao North – Dabanqiao – Guolin Reservoir – South Railway Station (Bailongtan) – Jingming South Road – Xiazhuang (Yunnan University) – Chenggong University Town (Radio&Television University) – Yuanbao Village — Radio&Television Media – Jinmapu – Park North Road – Baiyun Village – Jincheng North – Industrial Park – Jincheng – Jincheng South – Zhonggui Village – Shizhaishan

Line 8 (Longquan Road – Fubao East):

Stations: Longquan Road (Shabaying) – Xiaokang Avenue – Linyu bridge – Kunqu High-Speed – Chuanjin Road – Expo Garden – Bailong Temple — Southwest Forestry University – Jinsha Community – Taiping Village – Juhua Overpass – East Railway Station – Guanshang Forest Park – Hongchang West Road – Sanjia Village – Changhong Guangfu – Dingjia Village – Wujiatang Wetland Patrk – Fubao East

Line 7 (Puji Overpass – Qidian):

Stations: Jipu Overpass – Northwest Bus Station – Datangzi –Heilinpu – Changyuan Middle Road – Shagouwei – Nanya – Tianjiadi – Qianxing Road – Dashanghui – Guannan Guangfu – Changhong Guangfu – Century City West – Guandu Ancient Town – Sports City South – Guangwei – Dashuitian – Guolin Reservoir – Qidian

An article was just published on "China's famous 'cable girl' returns to help remote village after graduating from university with medical degree."

Yu Yanqia, a member of the Lisu ethnic minority, nicknamed 'cable girl' comes from high up in the mountains of Yunnan province." She was documented in 2007, crossing the river at age 8 to go to school.

"A nationwide fundraising initiative was set up afterwards and a bridge was built over the river the following year using the money raised. Yu and other local children were spared from risking their lives every day just to get an education."

"She has decided to return home as a medical worker after her graduation from university, the first person in her village to obtain a higher degree."

The story and photos of her can be viewed here:

www.scmp.com/[...]

The Dali–Ruili railway appears to be completed after over a decade since breaking ground.

Wikipedia entry may need to be updated:

"Darui railway (大瑞铁路), is a single-track electrified railroad under construction in Yunnan Province of Southwest China. The line is slated to run 336.39 km (209 mi) from Dali to Ruili on the border with Myanmar. The line traverses rugged terrain, and bridges and tunnels will account for 75% of the total track length, including the 34.5 km Gaoligongshan Tunnel through the Gaoligong Mountains.

Construction began in May 2011 and was scheduled to take six years. However, this has been repeatedly delayed, and as of 2019 the railway is scheduled to open only in 2022. Cities and towns along route include Dali, Yangbi Yi Autonomous County, Yongping County, Baoshan, Mangshi and Ruili.

The line will have a design speed of 140 kilometres per hour (87 mph)."

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dali%E2%80%93Ruili_railway

Appreciate the update.

It's entirely possible the starting point of the new light rail would be located near Yuquan Road (玉泉路) in the proximity north of Yunnan Tourism and Culture College (云南文化旅游学院).

The open track of the light rail visibly runs parallel to Yuquan Rd. This road is renamed "旅游环线" further up north, though still labelled as Route S223 if navigating on maps. A swathe of land is available to the east of S223, compared to areas south of tourism college. Details of the stations should be announced in the months to come.

As for public transport connections to the light rail. Bus 11 may approach the potential station starting point, while bus 101 should reach even closer to the designated location your Lijiang friend described.

Both bus routes start at Lijiang Old Town. Bus 11, often packed with locals, terminates at tourism college along S223. Bus 101, which caters to tourists, travels all the way to the main entrance visitor's center of Jade Dragon Snow Mountain with fixed rate of 15 yuan per pax, notwithstanding the alighting point.

A heads up for commuters going up the mountain:

The bus 101 driver will ask to see negative test result (within 48-hour period) upon boarding. More strictly enforced if boarding 101 at the preliminary 忠义市场 Lijiang Old Town bus station.

En route to the national park gate, all passengers' temperatures will be scanned, movement tracking and health codes will be inspected at a security check-point prior to reaching the Dongba area.

At this time, entering the east portal access through the main gate on S223 would encounter stringent measures compared to the south portal access across from Yuhu Village.

Downloading offline map apps for hiking/tubu is recommended as network signals are weak or nonexistent deep into the mountain trails.

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For a limited time until June 26, 2022, the 66th top floor observatory will be open to public for free. Visiting hours: 14:00 - 21:00, weekends and holidays. One of the best breathtaking views of the cityscape. Great for family. Below the skyscraper is intersection of MRT Line 3 (pink) with Line 2/1.

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For those following the tragic saga of the baby calf elephant (born at Kunming Zoo), who was forcibly separated from its mother to perform as solo act elsewhere for profit, there's finally some good news. After months of social media uproar and complaints over the cruel treatments of the calf in tears during training in leaked vids, the calf is soon returning back to our local zoo. The visibly depressed mother and calf will soon be reunited after a brief quarantine period. One extra star for the zoo for adhering to the voices of the public. A step in the right direction. More compassion for our animal friends in captivity.