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Forums > Food & Drink > Bread in Kunming

Where can you buy good bread in Kunming? If you've been somewhat shocked by the Asian reinvention of bread in bakeries here, read on. There is good Western bread available in Kunming.

The problem with Asian bread is that it's cake. The reason it tastes like that and has that mouth cloying softeness and that horrible smell is because of the stuff they put in it. None of these additives, sugar, extra proteins, oils and 'butter flavour' will kill you - but do mean that the bread has a shelf life of, well, possibly several weeks.

Ok, so where's the good stuff? You may be lucky enough to see a locally made French/Vietnamese 8 -10" baguettes in tiny grocery stores. They're great, fresh and really cheap. I think the undesputable bread baking champion of Kunming is French Cafe on Wen Lin Jie, but I hear you have to be pretty fast to get some. As you Like It, in the little alley behind Paul's, also makes mighty fine bread. At Slice of Heaven we also make bread. We use flour, water, yeast and salt. Nothing else. We take our time, about 18 hours, bake late in the morning so it will be hot and fresh for lunch time. Because we just bake once a day we make we sometimes get it wrong and run out. We do bake bread to order.
Carrefour sells some interesting cardboard baseball bats.

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Forums > Food & Drink > Coffee

At Slice of Heaven we get good comments about our 'Yunlu Coffee' which is Yunnan grown at Bao Shan. I think Prague uses this coffee and Paul's sells it. It comes in different roasts. The roast we get is dark with chocolate flavours, similar to Starbucks house roast. We sell it for 80 rmb a 454 gm bag. We'll grind the coffee to your requirements. As far as I know Chicago's is the only place where you can buy decaf coffee.

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Forums > Food & Drink > Anybody seen live/active yoghurt?

Tigertiger, I don't know what KIA is. We're at 168 Hong Shan Dong Lu. If you can't be bothered hauling all the way out to Bei Chien for a litre of imported yoghurt ours is every bit as good. Thick, creamy and made from New Zealand milk with the expensive stuff used as a starter.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Rugby World Cup

No way! Two or three Rugby World Cups ago the French beat the All Blacks. Many Kiwis were seriously depressed for months, and the post mortem and blame hurling seemed to last even longer. Nothing is a given here.

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Lao Fa. We all look forward to you opening a bar so we can come and pass judgement. Kris cooks everything with love and both Alex and Kris are great hosts but the first month or so in any business are hideously difficult. Please review again in six months after these hard working guys get their training wheels off.

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Great place to find high end stuff beyond most budgets such as down quilts, cashmere scarves and sweaters, very good coats and jackets and leather goods. Often in barely worn condition. You will have to search. I got a Brooks Bros shirt for 10 kuai! Do bargain. I think this is where the charity bins of clothing end up. I've seen huge bales of compressed clothing in some of the stores.

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Hearts & Hands had a table at the Xmas market at Slice of Heaven recently. Their Xmas themed ornaments, toys and gifts were well made, very resonably priced and popular with our customers. We noticed they had some nice aprons and we asked them to make some for our staff in another colour. They arrived a week later, stylishly and professionally made and at a price to make the local street tailor anxious. They're right next to the Wicker Basket over on the West Second Ring Road.

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Heller, you're right. That is too much for bread. Call that another one of my many senior moments. But we did think the price was too low. The bread is 15 yuan for a baguette and 8 for the foccaccia. We think that is reasonable. What do you think?

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I'm a long term fan of Prague Cafe, both Beichen and Wen Lin Jie. It's clean, bright, has some of the friendliest staff in town, great coffee and, their pasta primavera beats all. Just reading a review of Aiyaryarr's makes me want to scream, "Aiyaryarr!!!" Where do you think you are? This is Kunming, in the middle of China, not London, New York, Paris. People here opening cafes, bars, restaurants are not Michelin Star chefs, just people. They love Kunming, food, people, good coffee and want to share that. Instead of blahing off, why don't you either open a cafe of your own and expose yourself to the same criticism you level at others go back to Paris, New York, Mummy, wherever.