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Forums > Living in Kunming > How are Black-Aqmericans treated?

Yuanyangren - Since you have taken the initiative to comment to me directly I shall reciprocate in kind. I do Not know you. I do not know if you are young, middle aged or old. I merely replied to a post on this forum. I did not direct my reply to you or anyone else on this forum. Therefore, I was not attacking you but for some reason you are defensive. As the saying goes, If the shoe fits, wear it. You have put the spotlight on yourself.

I will use your own words - your last sentence hints at ignorance and lack of knowledge - Thank you for proving my point and showing your own ignorance and lack of knowledge since you do NOT know the meaning of AmeriKa. It is not mispelled, it has a specific meaning which you obviously know nothing about.

But let me just comment on your "getting pulled over by the police in AmeriKa comment: In a country as diverse as America, That Kind Of Crap Is Not Going To Happen. Obviously it has not happened to you, I wonder why? Ever heard of profiling? Do you even know what DWB is? Those 9 words you wrote just made you lose any credibility and are evidence that you are not qualified to comment on this topic. I perfectly understand that in your reality this has never happened but this is 100% reality for many people of color in the US.

Let's not get off topic here by comparing America to China. The title of this post is - How are Black-Americans treated? Aside from the obvious spelling error caused by the letter Q which is above the letter A on the keyboard, the OP is not asking about black Africans, or black hispanics or Thais, so there clearly is a Direct relevance to comparing Amerika with China. To tell a black american that there is racism in Kunming, China is as absurd as telling an Eskimo or a Russian that it gets cold in the winter in Kunming. Nothing is absolute, all things are relative to perspective and experience.

Similarly, how do you know that the people you walk past aren't saying something negative about you behind your back? People talking behind someone's back is not discrimmination nor racism - This is more in the realm of Paranoia - not racism. As a foreigner in China, I am offered a seat on a bus, people come up to me and want to engage in conversation, they ask me questions, they ask me where I am from. This is Not racist behavior!

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Forums > Living in Kunming > How are Black-Aqmericans treated?

Mightymouse, Only one person identified his color and that was Calgrad so his is the only response that has any relevance as far as I am concerned. Calgrad clearly states - I've been in China a long time and racism in China is not like it is in the States. I'm mixed (Black and White) and I haven't had any problems. I've had no problems with anyone in Kunming.

You did not state where you are from so I have no way to compare racism in China (There is no racism here in China) with any other country that you may have experience with.

I am not white or anglo and I have never had any problems with racism in the last 8 years in China or 3 years in Japan. Like Calgrad, I am giving you firsthand knowledge on the topic not something I read in an article or heard from a friend of a friend. White people have no idea what it feels like to be pulled over by the police in Amerika for DWB at least 3 times in less that 5 miles. When white people talk about racism they usually begin with - I have a friend...

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Forums > Living in Kunming > What is bad about Kunming and Yunnan?

Yunnan or most places in China are a great place to live. Unlike the USA, Yunnan is not a police state. SWAT teams do not raid homes and kill the people in their own homes. People in the streets and in buses and trains are not frisked by police doing random searches and the Chinese military does real humanitarian work here as evidenced by the earthquake of 2008 and the annual floods in certain regions of China. The military does not patrol the streets and they are not flying around in black helicopters doing terrorist training in the streets (Urban Warrior). Chinese military does not shoot its own residents during natural disasters like the USA did during Katrina when it killed people trying to leave a flooded area by crossing a bridge to higher ground due to flooding. Chinese are not racists and foreigners are welcomed from all corners of the world. All people in China must pay income tax but they are unaware of it because it is done by employers and 80% of the people do not need to file income tax (Only rich and business owners). There are no IRS raids on people here in Yunnan that confiscate all your property. China does not spray chemicals on its own people with airplanes (Chemtrails). Anyone can buy penicillin or simple antibiotics over the counter without paying a doctor $100-$200 for a doctor's visit to get a presciption. The infrastructure in Yunnan is at most 8 years old (Dali/Kunming highway) or as new as today as evidenced by the new airport and metro line as opposed to the crumbling infrastructure of the USA that was built between 1930 and 1950. 70% of Americans are overweight and 50% are obese due to the garbage that is sold as food. Here in Yunnan, fresh vegetables and fruits can be found anywhere. China has a huge population but it does not have the homeless problems of the USA. 60% of Americans have some sort of addiction; drugs, alcohol, sex, gambling, rage, shopping, etc. and the USA has the highest rate of mental illness despite its small population because of the high stress. 30% of adults are on prescription drugs such as zoloft, xanax and prozac and 20-35% of children are on prescription drugs for behavior problems such as ritalin and lithium and the number keeps rising each and every day.

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The video is very informative but does NOT specifically tell you where these locations are located. The entrance ticket to SHI LIN (Stone Forest) is 175 Yuan. I prefer to buy an annual ticket for 200 Yuan and I can use it at any time during the year. Bring your passport and you can purchase an annual ticket which includes entrance to the MAJOR stone Forest, MINOR stone Forest, BU SHAO SHAN, LI ZI YUAN QING, WAN NIAN LING ZHI, and NAIGU stone Forest (Black Stone Forest).

Most of the footage on the video is of the Black Stone Forest. Few people know about it so each time I go, there are very few visitors, less than 5 people. This location has been completely renovated but it lacks many basics. However, There is NOWHERE to purchase any food or water anywhere in the entire park.

Another location seen in the Video is DA DIE SHUI Waterfall. This USED TO BE included in the price of the entrance ticket more than 1 year ago but it no longer is considered part of the Stone Forest. Presently, the waterfall scenic area is under renovation. The Waterfall is located more then 30 km away from the main park. 2 years ago, you can purchase tickets for the waterfall ONLY for 18 Yuan but I have no idea what the price will be after the renovation is complete.

If you truly want to learn more about the hidden wonders of YUNNAN, please visit my website and see for yourself.

WWW.HUGOYUNNANTRAVEL.COM

Good luck

I ASSUME that the writers and staff of GOKUNMING write these articles in an effort to inform the reader of an event or location of some significance in and around Kunming.

I find many of these articles lacking in vital information. In an attempt to be CREATIVE, the writers fail in being INFORMATIVE.

For example, the writers mentions Jiexiao Xiang many, many times but fails to tell the reader where this place is. Is it somewhere in Yunnan? Is it in Kunming? There are 5 districts in Kunming - is it in Pan long District? Or is it in one of the other 4 districts? Is there a major crossroad where this small alley can be found. Perhaps near Beijing Road or Guangfu Road.

I enjoy travelling and seeing new places and I research many of the places I visit. But I really would like to read an article here and NOT be left with MORE questions than when I started.

I ask the staff of GOKunming to please be more specific when writing about places to visit and give SPECIFIC directions such as name of town or village and county and prefecture when writing. Thank you.

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The new Visa office is located at 118 Tuo Dong Road. There is no number on the building yet so do not bother to look for it. There are 2 passport photo shops on either side of the building. The office is located directly in front of the Kunming Museum. The bus stop is named - Shi Bo Wu Guan - Bus 1, 62, 109, 117, 145, 213, A1 and K3 stop directly in front of the office. Foreigners need to go to the 3rd floor. The Tuo Dong Stadium is located to the right of the office while Baita Road is located to the left of the office.