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Forums > Living in Kunming > Chenggong

I have lived in Kunming for 8 years and I remember when they first built the Ghost town known as Century City. I walked that area years ago and I can hear a pin drop because it was quiet and desolate. Go visit Century City today and you will find a busy and very populated area. Although most apartments are purchased even before the building is complete, those who know Kunming can tell you that it takes about 2-3 years before those apartments are rented and businesses open and the community begins to thrive. The same goes for Cheng Gong. I visited the Yunnan University campus in Cheng Gong 4 years ago when it first opened and only Freshman and sophomores lived in this campus. The area was desolate and only a few small places for students to eat. It is a big difference today. Just needs time for people to and invest and start businesses. This will have absolutely no effect on Green Lake.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Dali to Lijiang New Road

The new road from Dali to Lijiang is still not complete. However, a 45 km portion of the road has been completed from Heqing, Dali to the Lijiang Airport to Guan Yin Valley and to Lijiang City. The total drive time is now 3.5 hours from Dali to Lijiang.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

Tommann - I was travelling so I missed your reply a few days ago. I really want to thank you for your tone and manner on this forum. I am glad we can see eye to eye on some issues and still disagree on others and still remain civil to one another. Once again, THANK YOU.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

Tomman, thanks for your question and for being respectful in your tone. Please understand, that you are making a mistake called the slippery slope. That if one thing happens then all others are sure to follow. How does reporting one driver who was obviously very rude and disrespectful to my wife and committed numerous other violations, how does one person result in - going around town reporting people for minor violations? One action does not follow the rest. If I drink one beer I will become an alcoholic and never stop drinking.

Is there any penalty so harsh... I will repeat myself again - I was not aware of how severly this guy was punished until after they already punished him.

NOw u ask me if punishment was decapitation, would I still report him so that he can be punished and decapitated. Again, you are going off the slippery slope and you still refuse to see that I was NOT aware of the severity of his punishment until after the fact. In fact, now I am aware of how a report for smoking may result in some severe penalties. I am only aware of this NOW - after the fact.

Finally, you go into the question of my duty to change a culture. Please realize that I would be guilty of this if I was the one person who created this law and then went around town enforcing this law as my sole duty and responsibility. Another member in this forum said he took a cigarette from a driver after asking to stop which he did not. My wife asked but rather then begin an altercation I chose to make a report about one driver. NOt the entire universe - just one driver.

China already has these laws in place. China made these rules - not me. China puts the signs on the buses - not me. Please help me understand how reporting one disrespectful driver makes me the Destroyer of cultures?

Perhaps you see a connection between the culture of a country and smoking. How does reporting one person make me guilty of changing culture in the sense that Britain went around the world with the notion of making the world England. I am sorry but I dont see the connection of a foreigner bent on changing the culture of a country based on this event. Is this similar to footbinding? Is this similar to female circumcision? Is this similar to forcing others to use my language? Or only use my language in their school system?

since we both have a difference in opinion, then we must rely on the reasonable response of others for self awareness.

If I asked 10 other people this question - Am I guilty of changing another culture by this this SINGLE event? What do yo think the 10 reasonable people would say? Now, if you were correct, which you are not, that I go around town correcting all the people for minor infractions, then I would probably agree with you. BUT, the fact is, I do NOT go around town doing this. How can I reply to your question about speaking Farsi? It is a hypothetical question that is NOT based on reality.

I have tried to reply to all your questions. I wonder if you will reply to my questions or will you just move on to more questions with a reply to mine.

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The video is very informative but does NOT specifically tell you where these locations are located. The entrance ticket to SHI LIN (Stone Forest) is 175 Yuan. I prefer to buy an annual ticket for 200 Yuan and I can use it at any time during the year. Bring your passport and you can purchase an annual ticket which includes entrance to the MAJOR stone Forest, MINOR stone Forest, BU SHAO SHAN, LI ZI YUAN QING, WAN NIAN LING ZHI, and NAIGU stone Forest (Black Stone Forest).

Most of the footage on the video is of the Black Stone Forest. Few people know about it so each time I go, there are very few visitors, less than 5 people. This location has been completely renovated but it lacks many basics. However, There is NOWHERE to purchase any food or water anywhere in the entire park.

Another location seen in the Video is DA DIE SHUI Waterfall. This USED TO BE included in the price of the entrance ticket more than 1 year ago but it no longer is considered part of the Stone Forest. Presently, the waterfall scenic area is under renovation. The Waterfall is located more then 30 km away from the main park. 2 years ago, you can purchase tickets for the waterfall ONLY for 18 Yuan but I have no idea what the price will be after the renovation is complete.

If you truly want to learn more about the hidden wonders of YUNNAN, please visit my website and see for yourself.

WWW.HUGOYUNNANTRAVEL.COM

Good luck

I ASSUME that the writers and staff of GOKUNMING write these articles in an effort to inform the reader of an event or location of some significance in and around Kunming.

I find many of these articles lacking in vital information. In an attempt to be CREATIVE, the writers fail in being INFORMATIVE.

For example, the writers mentions Jiexiao Xiang many, many times but fails to tell the reader where this place is. Is it somewhere in Yunnan? Is it in Kunming? There are 5 districts in Kunming - is it in Pan long District? Or is it in one of the other 4 districts? Is there a major crossroad where this small alley can be found. Perhaps near Beijing Road or Guangfu Road.

I enjoy travelling and seeing new places and I research many of the places I visit. But I really would like to read an article here and NOT be left with MORE questions than when I started.

I ask the staff of GOKunming to please be more specific when writing about places to visit and give SPECIFIC directions such as name of town or village and county and prefecture when writing. Thank you.

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The new Visa office is located at 118 Tuo Dong Road. There is no number on the building yet so do not bother to look for it. There are 2 passport photo shops on either side of the building. The office is located directly in front of the Kunming Museum. The bus stop is named - Shi Bo Wu Guan - Bus 1, 62, 109, 117, 145, 213, A1 and K3 stop directly in front of the office. Foreigners need to go to the 3rd floor. The Tuo Dong Stadium is located to the right of the office while Baita Road is located to the left of the office.