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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

In May of this year, there was a serious bus accident near Lincang where numerous passengers were killed. Since then, the officials have really cracked down on unlicensed bus drivers, on making sure passengers wear seat belts, and unsafe driving habits by the driver. I was really surprised on my last trip last week when the woman who checks tickets on the bus went to every passenger and made them fasten their seat belts. I have never seen this before.

I failed to mention before that right above the bus drivers head, there was a sign written in Chinese with 2 phone numbers where passengers can call to report a bus driver's unsafe driving behavior. It gave examples of unsafe driving behavior such as talking on the phone, speeding, driving tired, or picking up more passengers.

I do not feel guilty - as you say - for ruining his life - because I did NOT put up the sign in the bus, I did not create the regulations regarding smoking, I did not fine the driver, I did not suspend the driver, I merely reported his behavior. Obviously, the driver was well aware of these new regulations as the sign was right above his head.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

In this country - China - there are currently laws and regulations in place regarding smoking in public places, specifically buses. I am aware the clubs, bars, restaurants permit smoking and these establishments will continue to permit smoking as it is their RIGHT to do so. Therefore, I avoid these places.

However, smoking in buses is a whole other matter. There are specific regs in place and enforcement of these rules takes place when the proper agency is notified.

I have a choice to go or NOT go to a bar where smoking is permitted. However, I do not have a choice when I am in a public bus. People in this country do care about this issue, that is why these regs have been put in place. Especially, when those affected are women and children who do NOT smoke.

More and more women are smoking now but also more and more women who don't smoke are demanding their rights to not be subjected to second hand smoke.

Now I see bus drivers who announce to all passengers that there is no smoking on their bus. I also see women who complain to the bus driver when the driver or other passengers are smoking. This is called change and it comes about slowly and with time. I am happy to see this taking place.

I think smokers have the right to smoke in public. However, a public bus with many passengers in an enclosed space with women and children is NOT a place where smoking should be permitted. I am happy to see that the govt of China has taken measures to protect those of us who do NOT smoke by making the laws that restrict smoking is buses as far back as 2007.

Obviously, people in this country do care about this issue. Reporting a bus driver who knows he is NOT supposed to smoke while driving for smoking on a bus is called accountability or facing the consequences of your own actions.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

I am referring to the restaurants, Not the clubs where all all boozing and smoking and are too drunk to know the diff anyway. I have had great success wit the mayors hotline and I do NOT mind reminding them again to enforce the rules. Only through this way will change slowly begin to take place. Believe me when I tell you that they do give some hefty fines. I just snitched on a bus driver who was smoking. He was fined 5000 Yuan and he was not allowed to drive for 15 days. What hurt him most was the driving suspension which cost him over 20,000 Yuan. I also hate smoke and poison so I just do NOT go to those places like dance clubs. I outgrew this childish distraction by the time I was 21.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Residence/visa family/permanent

After you find the office on Beijing road ( I leave that up tp you) you ask someone at the desk to allow you to go up to the 14th floor of the adjacent building. That is the main office of the PSB. They will give you a permission slip so you can enter the building. There you will ask someone to give you a copy of the regulations for a 5 year residence permit. I already did this but my copy is old so now it is your turn.

The paper in the lobby that Laotou mentioned is not the complete copy. It is just a guideline but does NOT have specific instructions.

The copy is about 6-7 pages long. It will detail all the things you need to do. Finances, local records check from Home country and other things.

After you get the new copy, I hope you can share with the rest of us.

Good luck.

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Like all surveys - this survey is biased and inconclusive. Unless the people interviewed have at least visited the cities that were on the survey - this survey is completely useless. At least Kunming got a good rating.

There are 4 more bridges worth visiting.

Tian Yuan Bridge in Ma Jun Village (Not far from the new Train Station).

Xiang Hui Bridge in Xiang Hui Village. There is also the old Xiang Hui Qiao Train Station.

Jian Long Qiao in Ma Jia Ying Village.

Finally, there is the Da Xin Bridge in Qujiang. There is a train station here now but I have not visited this bridge since the new train station has opened. This bridge is about 40 km north of Jian Shui Old Town.

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The new Visa office is located at 118 Tuo Dong Road. There is no number on the building yet so do not bother to look for it. There are 2 passport photo shops on either side of the building. The office is located directly in front of the Kunming Museum. The bus stop is named - Shi Bo Wu Guan - Bus 1, 62, 109, 117, 145, 213, A1 and K3 stop directly in front of the office. Foreigners need to go to the 3rd floor. The Tuo Dong Stadium is located to the right of the office while Baita Road is located to the left of the office.