i have the same problem, boc told me i need to own an apt here, being a vip user or similar..if u consider that there is a law that limits the amount of rmb to be changed into foreign currencies by laowais and the difficulties to change rmb out of china all these problems make sense to me..but if anybody has a shortcut i would be very happy to know it, tks for sharing!

marc you have to be realistic, if a decent music scene didn't come up in 10 years you're not gonna see it soon/...rocket u right, not enough musicians in town and another bad thing, people leave so early, the time to set up a band and get a good sound and players are already leaving km, that's something bad on this city about steady cultural life...i dont think u can blame monkey gigs for that, actually they give space to performers who are not confident enough to jump on stage, they can practice with no pressure on a monkey show and then get things done and join a band..
bar jams are messy and often taken over by small groups,just they should be more organised by an host or something, back home you have a limited amount of time to perform and that makes things more enjoyable for performers and audience..
rocket I already wrote I support your idea, let's try to meet to talk about it in front of a beer and try to improve things, where and when would be good?

I agree with you, I support your idea and your prices also. Just you know many people tried to organize this kind of "union" before but it never worked.
Sometimes people needs money and they can work for less,but I think mostly some people might feel that they get less gigs than somebody else so they lower the price to be in.

How can we be sure that every musician in town get more or less the same load of monkey shows? and human greed is everywhere.....

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I'm not a geek but I have a lot of sw that symply cannot run on my english version of windows 7 (showing the kind of characters you mentioned) but work perfectly on the chinese one, so I recommend to install the two versions of windows 7 on your pc and maybe that should fix all issues...