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Forums > Living in Kunming > COVID 19 vaccine for foreigners

The district office handling my work permit sent a group WeChat message today.

The message mentioned calling "Anti-epidemic Headquarters Office" to ask about situation of foreigners' vaccination, and citing response "foreigners should be able to get vaccine after July 1st", and that "foreigners in prefectures can get it now, but in Kunming city cannot".

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Forums > Living in Kunming > COVID 19 vaccine for foreigners

Anything new about vaccinating foreigners in Kunming?

On hearsay I'd share that last week my wife's Chinese colleague saw a foreigner getting the vaccine at a clinic in Kunming. She apparently asked about it, and was told that it was possible because the foreigner was enrolled in China's (medical) social insurance scheme.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Euros 2012

English schedule for the Euros and more: www.sinoepg.net/

CCTV-5 will be showing the matches live at least for the first weekend, with Chinese commentary of course.

If there are concurrent matches, then 5+ would be showing the other overlapping one. That's a common use for the 5+ channel, used for example with UEFA Champions League broadcasts.

5+ used to go with suffix "live events" in past, supposedly focusing more on live broadcasts/replays of events of lesser/no domestic importance, in order to reserve the main channel for Chinese sports or international sports of bigger domestic interest.

Nowadays it seems to be showing more live ice hockey and tennis than the main channel. Varies by season though.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Registering foreigners' religious activities

Yes, minorities were excluded from family planning. Still my wife, who is Yi and the youngest of 3 siblings, always jokes how her parents had to "buy" her. There was some kind of fee/fine for having her in the 80s.

I have little experience of rural China outside Yunnan, but it is my understanding that it's rougher up here than in many other provinces.

From what I have seen here, I cannot imagine lot of rural families wanting to have more children without intent and possibility to send them to study, work and live in cities. Even sending them to Yiwu to make sneakers may not be a viable option in coming decades.

In the mountains you simply don't have enough flat land to farm. Maybe somewhere else there is justification to raise more farmers, but also in those places farming machinery works better.

Mind you these are places that should be also high on China's poverty reduction agenda, and having more babies in already impoverished villages would be quite counter-productive.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Registering foreigners' religious activities

China doesn't currently depend on income tax of its workers the same way western countries do.

In particular rural residents, most of them, never in their lives go above the current 5000 RMB per month limit to pay taxes. Even in cities like Kunming lot of jobs are below that.

The problem of shrinking workforce is slightly different problem here than elsewhere. Despite all the talk of AI and robotics, China still needs hands to make things, and above all consumers to drive the economy.

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@Geogramatt: "Why the rush? Let this generation pass peacefully. The young all want to leave anyway."

I would think that it makes China look bad (and that's what the leadership cares, despite what their actions sometimes come through as), if there are so many elder people left behind in undeveloped rural homes.

Combine this with left behind children, who often are seen sharing those poor living conditions with their grandparents (if even that).. If the elderly are migrated to better housing closer to even minimal services, then so would their grandchildren - and that's for the future, right now.

As of late, Chinese pro-party commentators have repeatedly mentioned that Deng never said that it is glorious to be rich for everyone - they argue that Deng always meant for select few to become rich first, and rest later.

If much of China growth, or at least opening the potential to it, can be attributed to reforms that Deng initiated, then just as much of the so-called economic injustice (or relative poverty) can be attributed to those same political decisions - not so much people unintentionally falling off the wagon of development and economic prosperity, as is case in some western countries.

Secondly, the culture of shared poverty being the glorious thing (that the previous generations were forced to), would not have disappeared over night.

I have witnessed the internal conflict in some elderly rural residents in Yunnan, torn between being angry for not getting to enjoy the fruits of China's growth on one hand, and not accepting the steps that would be needed to pick the fruits on the other hand.

I was at a rural funeral in Yunnan last autumn, and throughout the event there was a bookkeeper registering and writing down all donations.'

Back then I understood that the family had purchased the feast for a certain price, and this communal bookkeeper was subtracting the payment for that from all those donations.

But in light of this article, I wouldn't be surprised if he served some administrative role as well.

Chinese state does have some economic muscle, and tradition of state-owned enterprising. I think that the state should jump in here.

They could confistace this kind of non-monetary resources (like bricks, or frozen french fries), pay market price to the employees, and then sell the goods back to the market (or donate to charity) through it's own channels.

But I guess there is more bucks in cigarattes and oil.

@alienew: "drive investors to go to places where they can get away"

Well, technically it would drive them away to places where they can get away with unpaid wages in some other ways than being beaten to death.

Preferably the alternative would be a more civilized way to lose face than doing so concretically.

The process somewhere else would be that after 1-2 months salary is unpaid, the employees quit and contact union, which then more or less peacefully negotiates the best possible solution between the employer and the employee.

The workers can then choose better representatives, if the union-led negotiations still produce nothing but bricks as compensation for unpaid wages.

The problem in China is that if you quit, there are 10 other guys waiting to take your position regardless of how you were dealt with.

But in that scale, there is usually just 1 guy offering those positions, and if he or she is dealt with this way, there may not be another guy taking his place.

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