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Interesting how high Yunnan ranks in number of foreigners. I'd guess it's due to land border with neighboring countries, and arrivals from there.

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My wife got a message about vaccinations being available, and specifically she got it from same district office desk that processes my work permit.

The communication still failed to mention whether the vaccination is available for foreigners - could have been just to remind foreign-invested enterprises (one of which I'm managing) to get their Chinese staff vaccinated.

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Dazzer: ""suggest that provision also includes adequate car parking"

I would assume it does, but what constitutus adequate is debatable.

For example in housing developments I would assume that they do it by some assumption of how many resident households own a car on average and then some extra for visitors. But at least in our relatively new development (though still old enough to have "matured"), it seems to be somewhat of a challenge to find parking space by the road.

I would also argue that limiting parking space would deter more cars hitting the roads (which is never a bad thing), if it is accompanied by meaningful penalties for illegal parking.

This would especially reduce meaningless car ownership, ie. for city dwellers who only buy it for status symbol.

Sure these parks are better than nothing. But I would hope the city would also step up on construction supervision in middle of urban developments.

From what I have learned, is that developers are required to allocate certain amount of green space for every square meter they are building.

What happens, is that especially outside the complexes they initially do that, but then after the authorities have checked and confirmed this, they tear it apart and replace with parking space or just empty concrete for damas to dance at.

This was interesting indeed.

I would also link this to another topic recently covered on this site, which is a central government team's visit to check whether Kunming now could be considered a "civilized city".

Lot of posts about this have appeared around the city in recent weeks, apparently trying to sell the idea to the general public.

Couple of weeks ago in our neihbourhood we spotted a group of people, who we suspected part of this investigation group, and one thing that they did outside our house was looking in the rubbish bins.

I noted that they pointed out how both "recyclable" and "non-recyclable" bins contained mixed waste. Also when they left the scene, one of the sanitation workers grumped, as if the group had just messed up her work.

So even if rubbish in both of the bins ends up to same place when collected (according to this article anyway), it seemed to be a factor in determining Kunming's "civilized" status that residents should sort their waste properly to correct bins.

Among other things, I'm guessing this explains why they revamped the previously lively bazaar and street food strip of a road behind Carrefour at Longquen Lu / Baiyun Lu intersection.

All pop-up establishments were removed, making the road more accessible to cars, and leaving only those shops and restaurants which have presence in the houses by the road.

It's a shame, in my opinion.

About her interpretation of Kunming air - I don't think Kunming air is that bad in comparison to many cities in China, but if she never did (which I don't know) experience smoggy winter day in Beijing or other super polluted city, perhaps Kunming does not compare that well to her experience in US.

Kunming might be all about spring, flowers. and blue skies for someone coming from Beijing, but perhaps not for someone hailing from Maryland?

It's quite subjective matter really.

And when she extends the fresh air to civil liberties, my arguments on that matter with Chinese usually proceed to them saying how they are content and satisfied without them - so why all the hate if someone happens to enjoy those.

The nation just has low self-esteem, and she forgot to consider that.

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