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Forums > Living in Kunming > Spring City Paradise

Got me thinking about low grade goods, their breakability, consumption in general, and how much it is a factor (in China in particular) that having to buy new ones creates GDP and employment to your own country and fellow citizens.

What I mean is that anti-consumption (for which reasons are plentiful) harder to sell in China because more stuff is sourced locally? In west if you have to buy new stuff, it's more often manufactured somewhere far away. Here not so much.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Spring City Paradise

Damnit, we had the carpet taken away for cleaning while the baby was drooling all over the place. Just when he's grown out of it, some thug comes and steals it :(

Just so you know, we couldn't do it in the bedroom with kid sleeping there.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Spring City Paradise

Chinese caught up with clothing and energy (in different forms) heating their cold bones long before the opposite - that of cooling their asses in the summer.

Therefore in Chinese context, the "spring" in Kunming as a spring city means less than intolerable heat in the hottest months of the year.

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I've been watching Godfather movies this week on foreign medium, and now I couldn't finish :(

In preparation for "offers we couldn't refuse" for the last pig.

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@aliennew: "the important thing here is to give the kids of the poor an even break, which is hard to do when the kids of the rich have"

Naturally so. My argument is that the poor should have to pay taxes too (even if very marginal amounts), so that they would learn to ask for better services in exchange for that, and this would work towards breaks their kids get. They would learn to ask for them.

The current 3500 RMB tax break in monthly income, defined in national level, means huge number of rural residents never having to pay income taxes, and I would like to see the tax system reformed so that every person feels contributing to the common good, and in that everyone would be on the same line.

Then people in rural Yunnan and elsewhere could slowly learn to ask for same services as those in Kunming or Shanghai, since they would be contributing to the system on same terms..

Perhaps the money just isn't there, but at least more of the little there is would be directed to be spent properly.

@alienew: "Why "in China more than anywhere"?"

Because political system in China is naturally demotivating people from taking part in public interests and discussions for political reasons. They are also arguably quite restricted from pursuing the same goals for religious or spiritual reasons.

Since Deng, Chinese are however allowed and even urged to acquire financial wealth and prosperity. Social participation and activation of the public should therefore piggyback on money here.

The poor shouldn't have to pay taxes to finance the system, but to activate themselves to follow up on those tax contributions.

Specifically on OP, this means motivating to send your children to school, and to certain degree also making you interested to know whether your neighbour does that. And that once they do attend the school, they get the money's worth.of education.

"as for the poor caring where the tax goes, many are too ignorant of how governmt works anyhow"

Agreed, but I''d say that it is partly a chicken and egg problem. For better or worse, it is money that makes the world go around, and money can just as well stop it going around. Populism could be one realization of it stop going around.

I believe that in China more than anywhere this nature of money (or exchange of goods in wider context) should be utilized to mobilize the interest of the common people for their common causes.

But it may still be too early for the Chinese government to allow that. Too many skeletons still in open.

And on the note of 1%ers, if they would be made to pay 1% more tax, the question is whether they would pay it or move to a tax haven somewhere else. Worst case scenario is that instead of them paying 1% more, they would be paying zero.

It is (or should be) a fine balance.

@Dazzer: I don't mean the difference being in significantly bigger tax revenue, but the impact for individual families when they recognize that they have to pay their children's education and other state costs (via taxes) out of their very little income anyway, so why not use it..

For a person that makes, for example, a mere 100 RMB a month, 1 RMB or 1% tax taken out would go towards activating them to care how that 1 RMB gets used.

If the local government builds a new school house, they'd feel that they contributed to finance it and that they should use it.

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