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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

@ Dazzer: Laws are specially significant when they protect others from harm.

That is why non-smoking laws were created and successfully passed approval, despite having being heavily argued against and opposed by strong lobbies.
The post you mentioned was not an "argument", but instead, a reply directed to TCIexpat. I know my way around logic enough to logically infer without the use of leverages or fallacies, thanks.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

@ Natsymir:

Ripping the guy's cigarette off his hand is "cruel", yet for a non-smoker having to endure an 11 hour bus trip Kunming-Tenchong with smoke circulating is also not cruel ?

Furthermore, is it still "cruel" to take the action I took when it was politely asked for the person to stop smoking a couple of times?

Keep in mind the law was on my side mind when I did that.

Your "VPN Access example" of a common law infraction cannot be compared to breaking a law that directly and negatively affects ANOTHER PERSON, such as the non-smoking law.

Natsymir, your have the morality and values of a 10 year old.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

People say anything they want when they are safeguarded, but when out in public it's a different situation.

As Wanderlei Silva once said to Chael Sonnen when they had to share a limo ride to UFC:

-You have respect, you no lose your teeth. (sic)

Non-smokers want to have the right to avoid smoke due to their personal or health issues (allergies/rhinitis) and NOT because they think they are superior to non-smokers.

Their concern is also backed up by law, the message is: respect.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Is Kunming Racist?

I agree with the idea that the chinese schools might have had trouble with the issuing of visas to african countries passport holders in the past.

I wouldn't be so concerned about what chinese people think of you, there will always people who will want to be your friends.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Non-smoking bar or dance club WANTED

@ MODERATOR: please check TICexpats for his conduct on the forum.

@TICexpats: I created a thread hear some suggestions on a smoke free establishment. Smoking under closed public spaces is forbidden by law in all chinese territory.

I don't like the sarcastic tone of your post.
As a non-smoker I will continue to make sure the law stands, I will not leave Yunnan, or China. If you cannot respect the laws of this country, you will end up being deported.

@All:Last week, in a bus from Kunming to Tengchong, I had to personally take the cigarette out of the hand of the reserve bus driver (2 of them alternate shifts) and put it out on the floor. This was after I told him two times to put it out and was ignored. It generated a major commotion in the bus.

@TICexpats, again: Why don't you try smoking near me in an elevator or restaurant. I would enjoy teaching you some respect, boy.

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By the way, I have the card that can be used both for the Subway and Bus fares. Purchased it in Chenngong on ShiLin Street, in the computer store across Fujian Bank.

I can't believe it. I live in downtown Kunming and study in Chenggong, so I have to take the bus everyday at 6:30 AM to Chenggong and be back by 5:30 PM. The subway will make my life a lot easier, I hope this is true.

The japanese movie "Departures" is probably the best movie I have ever seen. It is fascinating how caring for the dead can awaken noble gestures an admiration in men.

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Call before you go, I went there on thursday and there was no one in there,

I called one of the owners, and they said that they weren't going to open.

I lost my trip, I love the concept of the restaurant, No MSG and etc, but ended up having to pay for a cab ride and getting a growling stomach.

If the same thing happens to you, just go down the road until the road ends and the last 2 story restaurant across the street is very also decent. Order the sweet and sour fish and it also won't have any MSG.

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No Bus to Chenggong from the airport, had to go downtown and get a 150 RMB taxi.

I mean isn't this a district of Kunming? Then why not make transportation available?

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