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Forums > Living in Kunming > flea market and cheap handicraft

"I get it that new high-rises is where the money's at, but where are people going to buy food if these markets are all torn down?"

Walmart! Because that's what they do in America! (The excuse for half the bad ideas in China.)

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"I find Horsie's post insulting on so many levels. It reminds me of the classic "the non-believers have no morals" argument that religious people always use."

Not that you're any better, D.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > expat population in Kunming

Seahorse62, I find US born-agins annoying because I used to be one. But I got tired of being told "give your money to the preacher and G-d will make you rich," and "kill the commies (gooks, spics, rag-heads, etc.), G-d doesn't love them," and "if you were good, you'd be rich and healthy; since you're poor, you deserve to suffer" and the general long-term habit of baptizing slavery, racism, xenophobia, "American Adam" exceptionalism, and every other traditional vice. "If the name of G-d is cursed amongst the Gentiles, it is because of you," St. Paul said. He's still right.

Not that born-agin secularists/atheists in the US are any better.

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Danmairen, I find US missionaries annoying, too, but be honest. The plague isn't religion but violent, pushy, people. It's not as if 20th century atheists/secularists don't have a record of wars and massacres, often of the hated religionists.

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"I've often wondered why the outdoor areas of Wen Hua Xiang can't have a few tables and chairs so people could sit outside like in most cities that encourage sidewalk cafes. "

Outdoor tables were abolished 5-6 years ago, after complaints from retired professors living upstairs. Too much drunken shouting late at night, it seems.

I wish the Cheng Guan would go away and the street vendors were allowed to stay. If they hinder traffic, well, I wish 90% of the cars would go away, too.

In the 1870s, the city was Yun Nan Fu but it was in the county of Kunming. So Emil Rocher, La province chinoise de Yunnan (Paris, 1880). Caravan Press (connected with Mandarin Bookstore) will publish an English translation soon, by the way.

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The beer is good. The food, OK, if you're dying for something Western. Food service is better in the daytime, mamahuhu in the night time.

I haven't stayed in their guesthouse, but I'll guess it's noisy in the night times.

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Prague Cafe in Bei Chen Walking Street is Prague III.

There are other branches in Wen Lin Jie and in Lijiang.

I've been a long time customer of the Wen Lin branch.

Both Kunming branches are pleasant places to meet and chat with friends.

The food may not be the cheapest, but the cheapest would be from the street vendors.

I meet and drink coffee with friends at the Wen Lin PC several times weekly, especially since the Yun Joy Cafe is no more.

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I've been drinking Beer Lao and coffee here, off and on for some years.

It's always a pleasant place to relax. The food is good as well. Close to cheap hotels and bike rental on Manting Lu, too.