Gotta love the "Get the f... out of the country" responses you always get from a certain kind of people whenever you dare to open your mouth in some areas of the world. Leolu,, I can't really be bothered with you but read timkunming's post a couple of times. We complain at least as much about things we think are counterproductive or just plain nuts back in our own countries. It's called living. I think the good things outweigh the bad in Kunming by a pretty big margin but everyone has the right to express his oppinion if there is something he finds weird, disgusting or plain wrong. Deal with it.
Kinda stupid thing to say JJ for a myriad of reasons. But if you want to make people feel uncomfortable I can assure you that while the CCP doens't like certain things written in public the denouncing of religion isn't one of them. China's official stand on religion is still based on solid communist values hence I have no problem expressing anti-religious views on a public Chinese forum such as this one. Anyway the (few) delicate threads on this site is nothing compared to what is going on at the major Chinese language chat forums or thebeijinger.com.
Hey,, what's up with you guys? Is Gokunming run by Christians who can't take a bit of much needed criticism? Or did you get complaints from religious people and decided to dish out some censoring? I'd love to hear the excuse but I'd much rather hear you guys admit to having made a serious mistake and re-open the thread. It is frankly embarrasing.
The way I see it is that you don't need to be a Christian with more or less hidden motives to do good for other people but at least these days most Christian missionaries is talking to people (and I guess bribing them with improved living standards and afterlife promises) instead of forcing or demanding conversion. That is something certain parts of Islam hasn't really developed yet. There are lots of Islamic preachers and missionaries in China and in the rest of the world too. Some of them spreading the word with bombs and terror.
What I have against missionaries and religion as a whole is the way it suppresses free thinking and individual freedom. There is no such thing as an afterlife and trying to assure others that there is is frankly delusional and embarrasing in my book. Religion is invented by man. Often by ancient rulers and the ruling class to pacify the lower classes, supply soldiers for war and keep a stable society by promising a glorious afterlife. To me it is a ridiculous notion that people should pray 5 times a day, don't eat this and that, spread the word, fight for the faith and basically live their lives the way other people tell them to or by following an old dusty book made and edited countless of times by priests as is the case with the bible or an old dusty book where there is capital punisment for even discussing or leaving out certain parts of the gospel as is the case with the koran. Communism might be wrong in several ways but the view towards religion sure wasn't one of them.
Tanfei: Stop using words like "kaleidoscopic". It makes you sound gay and makes my eyes rain. Your scooter sucks. :)
I just read up on the "November 27th UFO disclosure". Seems like Barack Obama and the Pope are going to participate in a 2 hour live tv session to be broadcast worldwide. They are going to disclose how aliens live amongst us and how we earthlings should react to them.
My only question is: Will the tinfoil hat I made in the 1st grade let me see the aliens or do I have to make a new 2009 model?
Might isn't right and I don't really see a valid connection between global warming and little green shapeshifter robots. Wait a minute,, global warming,, little green men,, I might be pushing it but do you think those two could be related somehow?? Maybe "They" don't want us to know about the aliens because they are causing the global warming. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa and the Bilderbergs are in on it as well.
"Do you believe in God Danmairen?"
Do I come off as the religious type to you when I insist on scientific proof to prove wild statements and question the "I am sure it's there so it HAS to be there"- kinda thinking you guys present? (not even sure if it's more than one guy using different handles,, never noticed their names before on this site tbh).
Just to sum up,, no I don't believe in gods or religion. Interesting subject for a discussion though but there is a place and a time for everything.
"You sir, Danmeiren, have the mentality of the kind of people that denied that the Earth was round. It doesn't take a genius to realize that UFOs are a very much possibly real."
No I haven't and if you had bothered to read my post then you probably would have realized that the second part of your statement is wrong also (when you use it to refer to me).
The first part you write is just ridiculous sorry. How is it wrong to want some kind of scientific proof to wild and weird claims? Although there is a theory that space can be bent doesn't mean that it IS true. Less that organized matter such as spaceships and organic organisms can use them for teleportal travelling. As a matter of fact wormholes and instant travelling breaks just about every physical law outthere but I am sure that people like you can find some awkward pseudo-scientific theory as to why it should be possible.
Again let me point out that I don't deny that there by all means should be intelligent life other than us in the universe. I just don't think they are visiting us and it is highly unlikely that they ever will within the lifespan of an intelligent civilization.
I'll be very happy to be proven wrong one day if we actually do make first contact but I have a feeling you and the other True Believers outthere will do whatever it takes (even a fight against reality) NOT to be proven wrong.
Either way this discussion is kinda irrelevant since only one thing can happen that satisfies both sides. Contact with intelligent life. Still I have to say that the idea of shapeshifting alien robots doesn't immediately win me over. Strange huh?
First of all. How do you get to the conclusion that "I know nothing about the subject" because I question someone claiming that shape-shifters and alien robots walk amongst us? I love people like you who aren't even able to see what a ridiculous statement that it.
You are clearly more biased than me since you already proudly have referred to your blog from which one can only deduce that you are a firm believer in UFOs (and since you attack me for doubting shapeshifting alien robots I have to assume that you belive they exist too).
"Maybe this good physicist look at he evidence which most close minded scientist will not entertain". How do you know he is a Good Physicist? Because he is one of the very few scientists who share your beliefs? I can tell you that he DOESN'T qualify as a good scientist unless his claims can be backed up by good solid science. Science and tests that can be backed up by other scientists.
The only thing you get right in your post is your final comment about the box. I would actually LOVE to find out that there are aliens and that they visit us regularly. The difference between you and me is that I don't mistake my interest and hopes with seeing interstellar crafts, little green men and EVIDENCE everywhere I look.
Oh,, and just for the record I do not doubt that there is intelligent life out there. Even by using the most conservative estimates in the Drake equation the number of planets harbouring life in the universe always ends up in hundreds of thousands.
The problem with the truly unimaginable distances in the universe prevents them from ever visiting us,, or us them. Either way I find it hard to belive they would develop their space travel ability, spend hundreds of years in cryostasis in space while travelling to Earth only to make a crop circle, probe a cow and then it is back home without making any contact.
But of course if they are here as shape-shifting alien robots then that should solve the problem.
I like how a professor of physics sets aside all standards of good science to claim that shape-shifting alien robots walk amongst us. I think he is on to something there,,
Went there yesterday and it totally made my week. Nice decor and friendly staff and a real salad bar. Sadly we both wanted mexican food so I can't really say much about their other courses. The food was great but just a tad spicier would have improved the dish. The best thing was that we almost had the place to ourselves and we could have a quiet conversation without shouting, spitting Chinese people in the background. I realised how much I had missed that since coming here.
We went to Chicago Coffee a couple of days ago and it was a nice experience. The place is cozy with soft comfy chairs (I realized how much I have missed one since coming here) and they have a nice little collection of English language books in the corner consisting mainly of classics and travel litterature. I was looking forward to trying their advertized tortilla bar but it wasn't up and running that evening.
Instead we went for 2 12 inch pizzas -roast chicken and pepperoni- but we quickly realized that 1 would have been enough. Those things are heavy. I am mainly into Italian style pizza but Chicago's double layered pizzas are well worth a try. Their coffee seems to be a bit on the expensive side but people say good things about it and they have got a nice selection. I wouldn't mind dropping by again some day,, hopefully when they've got the tortilla thing going. English speaking staff btw.
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Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
发布者I just read up on the "November 27th UFO disclosure". Seems like Barack Obama and the Pope are going to participate in a 2 hour live tv session to be broadcast worldwide. They are going to disclose how aliens live amongst us and how we earthlings should react to them.
My only question is: Will the tinfoil hat I made in the 1st grade let me see the aliens or do I have to make a new 2009 model?
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
发布者Might isn't right and I don't really see a valid connection between global warming and little green shapeshifter robots. Wait a minute,, global warming,, little green men,, I might be pushing it but do you think those two could be related somehow?? Maybe "They" don't want us to know about the aliens because they are causing the global warming. Maybe Jimmy Hoffa and the Bilderbergs are in on it as well.
"Do you believe in God Danmairen?"
Do I come off as the religious type to you when I insist on scientific proof to prove wild statements and question the "I am sure it's there so it HAS to be there"- kinda thinking you guys present? (not even sure if it's more than one guy using different handles,, never noticed their names before on this site tbh).
Just to sum up,, no I don't believe in gods or religion. Interesting subject for a discussion though but there is a place and a time for everything.
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
发布者"You sir, Danmeiren, have the mentality of the kind of people that denied that the Earth was round. It doesn't take a genius to realize that UFOs are a very much possibly real."
No I haven't and if you had bothered to read my post then you probably would have realized that the second part of your statement is wrong also (when you use it to refer to me).
The first part you write is just ridiculous sorry. How is it wrong to want some kind of scientific proof to wild and weird claims? Although there is a theory that space can be bent doesn't mean that it IS true. Less that organized matter such as spaceships and organic organisms can use them for teleportal travelling. As a matter of fact wormholes and instant travelling breaks just about every physical law outthere but I am sure that people like you can find some awkward pseudo-scientific theory as to why it should be possible.
Again let me point out that I don't deny that there by all means should be intelligent life other than us in the universe. I just don't think they are visiting us and it is highly unlikely that they ever will within the lifespan of an intelligent civilization.
I'll be very happy to be proven wrong one day if we actually do make first contact but I have a feeling you and the other True Believers outthere will do whatever it takes (even a fight against reality) NOT to be proven wrong.
Either way this discussion is kinda irrelevant since only one thing can happen that satisfies both sides. Contact with intelligent life. Still I have to say that the idea of shapeshifting alien robots doesn't immediately win me over. Strange huh?
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
发布者Dear Joseph Capp
First of all. How do you get to the conclusion that "I know nothing about the subject" because I question someone claiming that shape-shifters and alien robots walk amongst us? I love people like you who aren't even able to see what a ridiculous statement that it.
You are clearly more biased than me since you already proudly have referred to your blog from which one can only deduce that you are a firm believer in UFOs (and since you attack me for doubting shapeshifting alien robots I have to assume that you belive they exist too).
"Maybe this good physicist look at he evidence which most close minded scientist will not entertain". How do you know he is a Good Physicist? Because he is one of the very few scientists who share your beliefs? I can tell you that he DOESN'T qualify as a good scientist unless his claims can be backed up by good solid science. Science and tests that can be backed up by other scientists.
The only thing you get right in your post is your final comment about the box. I would actually LOVE to find out that there are aliens and that they visit us regularly. The difference between you and me is that I don't mistake my interest and hopes with seeing interstellar crafts, little green men and EVIDENCE everywhere I look.
Oh,, and just for the record I do not doubt that there is intelligent life out there. Even by using the most conservative estimates in the Drake equation the number of planets harbouring life in the universe always ends up in hundreds of thousands.
The problem with the truly unimaginable distances in the universe prevents them from ever visiting us,, or us them. Either way I find it hard to belive they would develop their space travel ability, spend hundreds of years in cryostasis in space while travelling to Earth only to make a crop circle, probe a cow and then it is back home without making any contact.
But of course if they are here as shape-shifting alien robots then that should solve the problem.
Interview: Zhang Yifang on UFOs and aliens in China
发布者I like how a professor of physics sets aside all standards of good science to claim that shape-shifting alien robots walk amongst us. I think he is on to something there,,