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Forums > Living in Kunming > Buying a car

Line the hoops up and she had to go through them. Sorry, I've become a little cynical regarding Chinese bureaucracy over the past couple of years.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Buying a car

So to sum up, you're coming to get a driving license, buy a second hand van, fit it with a bed and a stove and then drive around China? And you're bringing your wife and kids (from another thread)? Have you thought this through? Lived in China before? Fluent in the language? I'm not saying it's impossible but there are definitely better countries than China to pick for such kinds of exploratory road trips.

You can get a brand new van for 30.000 and a decent second hand one for 10-12K, but they're all unreliable and not something I'd drive my family around in, both for safety reasons and the fact that they can break down anywhere and any time. The upside is that repairs and parts are cheap and can be done everywhere, but it's not too cool to be stranded in ShittyVillageInTheMiddleOfNowhere for 3 or 4 days while they're changing your gearbox.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > having a baby in kunming

"We didn't have to exit/re-enter with our new baby - it's unreasonable,,"

Not that this has ever stopped the famous Chinese blanket of red tape. But yeah,, you're right. It ought to be the first thing we do. So if I get this right: Go to the embassy/consulate, order his passport, receive it 4 weeks later, go to our go-to-lady at the PSB, get the exit stamp/apply for family visa, go to the Winchester, have a nice cold pint and wait for all this to blow over. Is Bob your uncle now?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > having a baby in kunming

Our kid is now a year and a half. We haven't actually done much regarding the citizenship thingies yet since back home I can apply up until his 18th birthday. Anyway, I have a vague idea of what to do with the exit/entry issue. Get out of China, get a passport done at home, apply for his visa in the new passport, go back to China. Bob's your uncle. Flaws?

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Gaming consoles

Since my old thread has been brought back to life, I actually have a follow up question: My 360 has been collecting dust for the past 2 years (had a pregnant wife and then a baby) but last week -when I figured now I finally had a little spare time- I wanted to order a truck load of newish games, I was informed that I needed an upgrade on the console. The taobao guy told me I should go to my nearest Xbox slinger and get it done before I could play new games. Thing is, I now live in a city where I've never seen anyone selling 360s or games, hence I'm in a bit of a pickle. Is the upgrade something that I can do (software only) or are we talking a software AND hardware thing? I'm sure some of you guys have had it done, so any clarification would be much appreciated.

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The entrance fees are and will be a concern for national tourists though I don't really know if Yunnan's direct competitors are charging similar sky rocketing ticket prices or not. Furthermore Kunming is going to get passed by as a stopover for tourists now that nearly every area worth visiting in Yunnan has an airport and frankly I can't blame tourists for not including Kunming in their plans.

This place might still be a decent place to live and work but honestly, what is there to see around here for a tourist? The Stone Forest it the only one think I can think about but there are karst formations all over Southern China, many of which are nicer and cheaper to visit than the one near Kunming. In 5 years Chinese tourists will fly into Shangri-La, take a bus or train to Lijiang, fly from there to Tengchong, then they'll fly to Jinhong (or whatever Sipsangpanna's main city is called) and from there they'll go back home. Kunming's tourist industry is pretty much fxcked and the hiked up fees all over Yunnan will ensure that no one ever comes back to visit.

Furthermore I think we all have a feeling that not only do we get screwed over when we want to visit the scenic spots but also that the money we have to cough up end up in the wrong pockets, or at least will be spent on anything else than preserving the natural beauty of the blah blah blah that every area claim.

"Looks like: good judgement, self control, integrity, healthy relationships, communication skills with parents, resisting peer pressure, and respecting yourself and others, are good topics to bring to high schoolers!"

I agree. My point is that these values can easily be taught without the influence of a religious group claiming some sort of god given patent on them.

The FOTF refer to itself as fundamentalist Christian. While I shake my head at all the different religions I reserve the right to step it up a notch and use nutjob for people who are fundamentalists (here in the sense of taking the ramblings in the bible literally as facts and truths).

"Nurturing and defending the God-ordained institution of the family and promoting biblical truths worldwide." is FOTF's official mission.

One could of course argue that the family is a natural development in human evolution since we in order to function efficiently as upright bi-pedal beings developed a narrow birth canal hence our offspring needed to be born early before the skull grew too large. Ergo we had to devote lots of resources from both father and mother to allow the child to develop sufficiently to take care of itself. Bingo,, the family was born, but let's save that discussion for some other day.

Now I wonder what the -supposedly atheist- central government in Beijing has to say when Hu and Wen discover that Yunnan has let fundamentalist Christian nutjobs influence the educational system.

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"A professor at Yunnan University's student counseling center told Global Times that young women should not have sex prior to marriage.

"If a girl had sex with her boyfriend, she would become mentally dependent on the boy," Yang said. "It would do no good for her studies and daily life."

-Why don't you just mind your own damn business professor Yang? Who gave you the right to morally lecture people and dictate how they live their lives and what exactly qualifies you to do such a thing? Nice sexist view towards women you display by the way. Obviously females are incapable of thinking for themselves so you and other fools like you have to do it for them. How the hell can this guy be allowed to teach at a university??

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Some dumb sheep said on Yunnan.cn:

"This way of thinking is very good. Old Master Confucius said as much more than 2,000 years ago. But this step comes a little late, now only using educational materials won't get the job done, things like the internet, television and movies must be controlled."

I wouldn't even know where to begin with this one.

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Went there yesterday and it totally made my week. Nice decor and friendly staff and a real salad bar. Sadly we both wanted mexican food so I can't really say much about their other courses. The food was great but just a tad spicier would have improved the dish. The best thing was that we almost had the place to ourselves and we could have a quiet conversation without shouting, spitting Chinese people in the background. I realised how much I had missed that since coming here.

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We went to Chicago Coffee a couple of days ago and it was a nice experience. The place is cozy with soft comfy chairs (I realized how much I have missed one since coming here) and they have a nice little collection of English language books in the corner consisting mainly of classics and travel litterature. I was looking forward to trying their advertized tortilla bar but it wasn't up and running that evening.

Instead we went for 2 12 inch pizzas -roast chicken and pepperoni- but we quickly realized that 1 would have been enough. Those things are heavy. I am mainly into Italian style pizza but Chicago's double layered pizzas are well worth a try. Their coffee seems to be a bit on the expensive side but people say good things about it and they have got a nice selection. I wouldn't mind dropping by again some day,, hopefully when they've got the tortilla thing going. English speaking staff btw.