Gotta love the "Get the f... out of the country" responses you always get from a certain kind of people whenever you dare to open your mouth in some areas of the world. Leolu,, I can't really be bothered with you but read timkunming's post a couple of times. We complain at least as much about things we think are counterproductive or just plain nuts back in our own countries. It's called living. I think the good things outweigh the bad in Kunming by a pretty big margin but everyone has the right to express his oppinion if there is something he finds weird, disgusting or plain wrong. Deal with it.
Kinda stupid thing to say JJ for a myriad of reasons. But if you want to make people feel uncomfortable I can assure you that while the CCP doens't like certain things written in public the denouncing of religion isn't one of them. China's official stand on religion is still based on solid communist values hence I have no problem expressing anti-religious views on a public Chinese forum such as this one. Anyway the (few) delicate threads on this site is nothing compared to what is going on at the major Chinese language chat forums or thebeijinger.com.
Hey,, what's up with you guys? Is Gokunming run by Christians who can't take a bit of much needed criticism? Or did you get complaints from religious people and decided to dish out some censoring? I'd love to hear the excuse but I'd much rather hear you guys admit to having made a serious mistake and re-open the thread. It is frankly embarrasing.
The way I see it is that you don't need to be a Christian with more or less hidden motives to do good for other people but at least these days most Christian missionaries is talking to people (and I guess bribing them with improved living standards and afterlife promises) instead of forcing or demanding conversion. That is something certain parts of Islam hasn't really developed yet. There are lots of Islamic preachers and missionaries in China and in the rest of the world too. Some of them spreading the word with bombs and terror.
What I have against missionaries and religion as a whole is the way it suppresses free thinking and individual freedom. There is no such thing as an afterlife and trying to assure others that there is is frankly delusional and embarrasing in my book. Religion is invented by man. Often by ancient rulers and the ruling class to pacify the lower classes, supply soldiers for war and keep a stable society by promising a glorious afterlife. To me it is a ridiculous notion that people should pray 5 times a day, don't eat this and that, spread the word, fight for the faith and basically live their lives the way other people tell them to or by following an old dusty book made and edited countless of times by priests as is the case with the bible or an old dusty book where there is capital punisment for even discussing or leaving out certain parts of the gospel as is the case with the koran. Communism might be wrong in several ways but the view towards religion sure wasn't one of them.
Tanfei: Stop using words like "kaleidoscopic". It makes you sound gay and makes my eyes rain. Your scooter sucks. :)
Thought it sounded strange as well. A quick google later told me that coffee trees don't grow well at altitudes higher than 3500-4000 feet and they don't particularly like extended periods of frost so clearly the coffee isn't grown near Zhongdian. It wasn't clear from the article but the coffee they sell probably comes from Southern Yunnan.
Bucko. I seem to remember that you've bought real estate around these parts recently. How did it work out? Did you have any doubts as to the possibility of a ruptured bubble? My girlfriend wants us to buy a place but I see a lot of the prerequisites present for a rupture over the next 1-5 years although the "Chinese characteristics" might play enough to keep it away for now. Did you find it daunting to buy a place blind that wont be ready for quite a while? Did you meet any obstacles as a foreigner that a native Chinese wouldn't? Aren't you the least bit worried that in 15-20 years some developer will have you kicked out for peanuts and the promise of a new apartment (and 2-3 years of waiting for it) in the larger building he is proposing? I know I am since "rights" as I know them don't mean the same thing here.
The delusional frenzy isn't going away until people realize that demand just doesn't meet supply these days. Unfortunately the government has been pounding the Chinese with propaganda about buying and owning property for so long that very few even want to consider that there might be a problem or 10. I have a major issue with the fact that you can't actually own the land that your property is situated on and frankly I doubt that leasing land from the government and the fact that you don't seem to have any legal options in cases of disputes (ie massive corrupt real estate developers) is something you can build a solid real estate market on in the long run. Something's gotta give.
Get back to work Jesus. Them dead aint gonna resurrect themselves ya know, and while you're at it: How's that "feeding the poor" thing coming along? With those Multiplying Fish skills and scrolls of Water-into-wine it really shouldn't be much of a problem. Did you just take a 2 millennia break you slacker?!
Went there yesterday and it totally made my week. Nice decor and friendly staff and a real salad bar. Sadly we both wanted mexican food so I can't really say much about their other courses. The food was great but just a tad spicier would have improved the dish. The best thing was that we almost had the place to ourselves and we could have a quiet conversation without shouting, spitting Chinese people in the background. I realised how much I had missed that since coming here.
We went to Chicago Coffee a couple of days ago and it was a nice experience. The place is cozy with soft comfy chairs (I realized how much I have missed one since coming here) and they have a nice little collection of English language books in the corner consisting mainly of classics and travel litterature. I was looking forward to trying their advertized tortilla bar but it wasn't up and running that evening.
Instead we went for 2 12 inch pizzas -roast chicken and pepperoni- but we quickly realized that 1 would have been enough. Those things are heavy. I am mainly into Italian style pizza but Chicago's double layered pizzas are well worth a try. Their coffee seems to be a bit on the expensive side but people say good things about it and they have got a nice selection. I wouldn't mind dropping by again some day,, hopefully when they've got the tortilla thing going. English speaking staff btw.
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发布者Thought it sounded strange as well. A quick google later told me that coffee trees don't grow well at altitudes higher than 3500-4000 feet and they don't particularly like extended periods of frost so clearly the coffee isn't grown near Zhongdian. It wasn't clear from the article but the coffee they sell probably comes from Southern Yunnan.
Expert: Kunming's property prices could drop by 30 percent
发布者Bucko. I seem to remember that you've bought real estate around these parts recently. How did it work out? Did you have any doubts as to the possibility of a ruptured bubble? My girlfriend wants us to buy a place but I see a lot of the prerequisites present for a rupture over the next 1-5 years although the "Chinese characteristics" might play enough to keep it away for now. Did you find it daunting to buy a place blind that wont be ready for quite a while? Did you meet any obstacles as a foreigner that a native Chinese wouldn't? Aren't you the least bit worried that in 15-20 years some developer will have you kicked out for peanuts and the promise of a new apartment (and 2-3 years of waiting for it) in the larger building he is proposing? I know I am since "rights" as I know them don't mean the same thing here.
Expert: Kunming's property prices could drop by 30 percent
发布者The delusional frenzy isn't going away until people realize that demand just doesn't meet supply these days. Unfortunately the government has been pounding the Chinese with propaganda about buying and owning property for so long that very few even want to consider that there might be a problem or 10. I have a major issue with the fact that you can't actually own the land that your property is situated on and frankly I doubt that leasing land from the government and the fact that you don't seem to have any legal options in cases of disputes (ie massive corrupt real estate developers) is something you can build a solid real estate market on in the long run. Something's gotta give.
Kunming government worried about drought repeat
发布者Get back to work Jesus. Them dead aint gonna resurrect themselves ya know, and while you're at it: How's that "feeding the poor" thing coming along? With those Multiplying Fish skills and scrolls of Water-into-wine it really shouldn't be much of a problem. Did you just take a 2 millennia break you slacker?!