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Forums > Living in Kunming > Are there any experienced runners on here?

I don't run but if you like nature versus pavement and want a decent length run (whole day type run for weekends) I suggest you try running Changchongshan from north to south. You can bus to the northern end, run up the hill, then find the route south along the summit. It's well publicised for mountain bikes, GPS routes are no doubt available on some bike sites and the route is better described in former posts on GoKunming.

Another great hill is the cemetary spur off of the Bamboo temple road (too many cars). It follows a valley from near the base of that, easy to find road, and is quite close to town. Great run, lots of up, no cars, no traffic, but all paved. Feasible as a daily run.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > China creates national behavior scoring system

See www.newscientist.com/[...]

"Where you go, what you buy, who you know, how many points are on your driving licence, how your pupils rate you. These are just a few of the measures which the Chinese government plans to use to give scores to all its citizens.

China's Social Credit System (SCS) will come up with these ratings by linking up personal data held by banks, e-commerce sites and social media. The scores will serve not just to indicate an individual's credit risk, but could be used by potential landlords, employers and even romantic partners to gauge an individual's character."

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Interesting article as always Jim. What is the source for the English in Simao? I've only read of their presence in Tengchong, and have an end-19th century source that shows no foreign presence further south in Jinghong.

Also, I am not sure how accurate the route description is: "From the border town of Hekou (河口) goods could travel by boat on the Red River (红河) only as far as Manhao (蔓耗) and then had to be transferred to the backs of mules and ponies for the 60-kilometer trek through the hills to Mengzi." It is my understanding that since ancient times (documented back to at least the Tang Dynasty) the rapids were forded by land and then the river sailed some distance further before the climb northward out of the Red River Valley. You can see my attempts to interpret the Man Shu on this subject at en.wikisource.org/wiki/Translation:Manshu/Chapter_1

The other cool thing about Mengzi is the Red Deer Cave people were found just out of town.

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It's interesting to see the stands of eucalypts around Bamboo Temple have all turned white. I am Australian and I have never seen them turn white. I think they may have died during the winter. Dry-terrain trees at the best of time, and full of oils, they burn very well. Interestingly, this was also the site of a former fire in 2010 .. which I saw first-hand being up the nearby mountain cycling. I suspect the authorities may need to reconsider their choice of species for mass reforestation.

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My guess: Locals are pissed off at China for economically dominating their country. This involves both Thai Chinese (the economically dominant force within Thai society) and mainland Chinese. Mainland Chinese are the largest tourist group in Laos. In Northern Laos, Chinese RMB is accepted widely and the Laos Kip is relegated to very local and low-value transactions such as locally grown vegetables. Locals watch rows of Chinese drive shiny new cars through their country while they toil for enough money to send their children to school and buy them a cell phone or motorbike. Promises of wealth led to widespread deforestation in the north for Chinese-sponsored rubber plantations, but the market is down so far the locals are left without the forest that used to provide for them or a replacement income. With weapons readily available, it was only a matter of time until things boiled over.

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Note that when you use Wifi:

(1) Your phone broadcasts a list of all of the access points it has used before and has stored passwords for; this is, although not designed as such, essentially a unique key and tells the authorities where you hang out.

(2) Your phone's Wireless MAC is broadcast to the local Wireless Access Point which is designed to be a unique key though possible to change in software if you really know what you are doing.

Therefore, if you Wifi on your phone in any public place, expect to be personally identified and the time, location and possibly internet endpoints you connect to logged. Major restaurants such as Salvadors have, in addition to standard Chinese law, been forced to install special gateway devices operated by the police which no doubt provide a combination of user identification, filtering and a platform for MITM (man in the middle) attacks against individual devices.

In short, it's not safe to use public Wifi.

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@nailer is being unfairly dismissed: they are certainly fallible. At one point they were well managed and the only game in town, and their outdoor bar had an interesting social vibe. Recently, none of these is the case (was given a bad bill to the tune of ~300% - no managers present and a subsequent complaint resulted in a less than ideal outcome, many more places are now open, and the outdoor bar is closed). Unless you are specifically seeking faux-Americana (often far better examples elsewhere) or two degrees removed faux-Mexicana, there's little reason to go there. How come French Cafe can serve a great sandwich for 24元 but Sals requires 50元 for a pretend-exoticized nibble? Certainly the business will continue, but the hey-dey is clearly gone. Romaniticizing the past aint gonna help. E-waste recycling by shipping (non carbon neutral) junk across the country? Puh-lease. Garbage processing people here recycle anyway! I applaud the ethical stance of one of the managers, but the place has frankly lost its mojo.

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Hands down the best draft craft beer in Kunming. On top of that, very reasonable prices for food and other drinks (especially wine).

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Called the number provided on a Friday at 2:15PM while a 10% discount was advertised "on Friday and Saturday" (listed in GoKunming specials).

A Chinese person answered the 'English' phone number in Mandarin then explained in broken English that you need to order 3 hours in advance. (Subtext: As their business is so slow)

Grumble. False advertising. Waste of time. Seems 100% Chinese run. Probably bad pizza.

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The listing here is wrong! Teresa's are not defunct, they are just back to being one store instead of two stores on Wenlinjie now! They are still in business, still answer on this phone number, and are still delivering! Points for consistency, it's been years! As of right now, it's 68元 for the more toppings vegetarian at the largest size. They will do thin or thick crust. Yes, it's not to everyone's taste, but I always used to find adding dried chilli powder and some extra salt brought it up to tasty. Might go for a dash of Sichuan pepper oil to spice it up this time around. (You know you've been in China too long when...)

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I also had a bad experience here recently.

Honestly, I wish them the best of luck, but I do think the staff are poorly managed and the owners have the wrong attitude and a clear lack of experience in service-oriented business. While the pizza is OK, everything else I have tried (including overnight stay) can be had cheaper and better elsewhere, and the pizza at Roccos is better in my opinion. The service has always fluctuated between acceptable to don't care.

Since they don't have their situation resolved yet, and it has been a few years, I have made the decision not to go there anymore or send anyone else. It's just not worth the hassle, given the crappy location (masked as private or lost). Better pizza with more quiet and privacy on Roccos' terraces.