@bosnian, well we could say that the original poster is implying that reverse discrimination is also evident in China, at least in the case of this club.
Also, as I mentioned before, China is not so bad when it comes to these things (at least not anymore). Although one poster mentioned discrimination occuring at a swimming pool (although that is not government sanctioned of course) although such practices are rare from what I've seen (apart from opportunistic overpricing, but that's a different story altogether). In any case, most businesses in Yunnan see so few foreigners there would be no point in trying to charge different rates, either more or less. Apart from the French Cafe, Salvador's etc. which receive foreigners everyday, the vast majority of businesses here have maybe 1 foreigner a day or less.
I find different pricing regimes based on nationality offensive, even if foreigners get in for free or for less than locals - generally it is the other way round, but even in this case it's not really acceptable.
Anyway, I second the comment above; I'd much rather go to a tourist attraction in China where I won't be charged extra by a greedy, racist government [like Thailand] that only sees tourists as dollar signs and which is why the only thing that matters to that government is that they can get as many tourists as possible —> this year the target is 19 million, next year maybe 25 and in 10 years perhaps more than the population of the country itself, who knows?
Anyway, I digress, so back on topic. Would I want to go to this club because I'm going to get a discount? Not necessarily...I'll just go to any club with my friends because either a group of people will invite me to join in their drinking parade and/or I might even offer to buy the second round of drinks for them. It didn't work last time, because everyone was so drunk by 4am that they weren't able to drink anymore, although at least I offered to pay, which was civil of me i guess.
Actually, at the foreigner's dorms at YUN although they feature paint peeling off the walls and damaged cabinets etc. at least you get a private bathroom with a hot water shower. The Chinese student's dorms just adjacent to the foreign student's dorms feature 8 students to a room and a shared bathroom for i don't know how many students with a stench you can smell 10m away. Privacy is an alien concept and it's only a bit better for foreign students who have 2-4 people per room (usually 4).
At Yunnan University there is a greater diversity of nationalities. There are more Koreans and more westerners than at YUN.
I think going overland would be a fun experience, though after factoring in all the costs, it may be cheaper (if only slightly) to fly to Mandalay or Yangon, both of which can be reached from Kunming on non-stop flights. In fact, the only international flight departing and arriving at Mandalay airport originates in Kunming (China Eastern).
Closed? I think if you get a visa arranged beforehand, with the right permits and guide (should be arranged from Kunming if possible) you can go in (at least exit China for Myanmar). I don't think visas on arrival are an option, or ever were an option for this crossing.
I hear a guide is also supposed to accompany all foreign visitors heading south of the border town of Mu-se until at least the town of Lashio, 8 hours south. Also, I doubt such a busy border crossing would be closed; the town of Mu-se is just an extension of China anyway and the vast majority of China-Myanmar trade flows through this crossing.
Get more information by contacting a Kunming travel agency and the Myanmar consulate here in Kunming.
I'm surprised his car was still driveable and didn't end up with a zillion dents (or maybe it did). I wouldn't dare drive like that knowing that damaging my car is almost certain if I were to attempt that and secondly I have more regard for the safety of pedestrians than this bozo did.
Yep...though I'm more used to getting hassled than ignored. I thought we were all walking atms to these guys! Haha...anyway, it really depends though, because those taxi drivers that constantly pester you in places like Vietnam often rip you off, but if you go for the ones that are not specifically looking for fares they'll actually use the meters. Of course, taxis are better than motorcycle taxis though since they are less likely to rip you off. Also, you can almost always find a taxi or something else when you need one in those countries, even during rush hour. Something that's hard to do in Kunming and even Shanghai...
Also, apart from the occassional three-wheeled scooter or electric scooter driver willing to drive you somewhere, there are few alternative forms of transport in Kunming apart from the standard forms you'd see in the west: buses and taxis (and eventually, a subway). Only on the outskirts of town will you find motorcycle taxis who congregate around tourist spots such as the Nationalities Village, but these guys don't pick up fares inside town, probably because they aren't allowed to, I presume.
What i find that's totally bizarre to me is that in a developing country like China, no taxi driver follows a foreigner like would happen in neighboring Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia or elsewhere. In those countries, you don't look for the taxis, they look for you! In Kunming and China in general, you can walk down the street and no taxi driver will ever stop for you unless you want them to.
Tell the people to look at the signs and see what their reaction is! If they don't react, tell them that they can't read (which is what I would assume, if someone was just so oblivious to a sign right above their head).
What do you mean by "foreigners"? Everyone who is a non-citizen of Myanmar and wants to travel there is a foreigner. I doubt Burmese citizens require visas to return to their homeland.
Horrible tasteless, thick-crusted "cardboard" like pizzas that are a far cry from what they should be like. Way overpriced too. Wine may be good, but why bother when the nearby Prague Cafe makes much better pizza at a more reasonable price?
Great Mexican food and ice cream, excellent Raspberry smoothies and an overall good atmosphere. Can't do much about the low ceilings on the second floor, but the early closing time could be adjusted, after all, the nearby French Cafe closes at 1am.
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Video: Kunming driver crosses pedestrian bridge
发布者I'm surprised his car was still driveable and didn't end up with a zillion dents (or maybe it did). I wouldn't dare drive like that knowing that damaging my car is almost certain if I were to attempt that and secondly I have more regard for the safety of pedestrians than this bozo did.
Still, this was an entertaining piece of news.
Kunming addresses taxi shift change troubles
发布者Yep...though I'm more used to getting hassled than ignored. I thought we were all walking atms to these guys! Haha...anyway, it really depends though, because those taxi drivers that constantly pester you in places like Vietnam often rip you off, but if you go for the ones that are not specifically looking for fares they'll actually use the meters. Of course, taxis are better than motorcycle taxis though since they are less likely to rip you off. Also, you can almost always find a taxi or something else when you need one in those countries, even during rush hour. Something that's hard to do in Kunming and even Shanghai...
Also, apart from the occassional three-wheeled scooter or electric scooter driver willing to drive you somewhere, there are few alternative forms of transport in Kunming apart from the standard forms you'd see in the west: buses and taxis (and eventually, a subway). Only on the outskirts of town will you find motorcycle taxis who congregate around tourist spots such as the Nationalities Village, but these guys don't pick up fares inside town, probably because they aren't allowed to, I presume.
Kunming addresses taxi shift change troubles
发布者What i find that's totally bizarre to me is that in a developing country like China, no taxi driver follows a foreigner like would happen in neighboring Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia or elsewhere. In those countries, you don't look for the taxis, they look for you! In Kunming and China in general, you can walk down the street and no taxi driver will ever stop for you unless you want them to.
Yunnan preparing warily for China smoking ban
发布者Tell the people to look at the signs and see what their reaction is! If they don't react, tell them that they can't read (which is what I would assume, if someone was just so oblivious to a sign right above their head).