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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Vietnam travel visa for Chinese citizen?

BTW @geosax I also heard that Chinese citizens now definately require a round-trip air ticket to enter Malaysia and also assume a visa in advance will be required, particularly if arriving by air directly from China. I believe that there is a Malaysian consulate in Kunming and the Vietnamese consulate is located in the Kai Wah building on Beijing Lu.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Vietnam travel visa for Chinese citizen?

@jbsindali,

I have heard this too, and can confirm that Chinese citizens need (based on last year's info, this may have changed) a visa prior to arriving in another country for countries that offer visa-on-arrival services for Chinese citizens. What this means is that Chinese laws override the visa rules of those countries.

For example, Thailand, Laos and Cambodia all issue visas on arrival for Chinese citizens with specific conditions (e.g. round-trip air ticket required in the case of air arrivals in Thailand), but the only way a Chinese citizen can qualify for this is by arriving in Thailand from a third country that is not mainland China (Hong Kong would thus count). Therefore, a Chinese citizen could travel to Cambodia etc. by way of Thailand and get a visa-on-arrival at the border like citizens of most other countries, but this doesn't apply for direct flights from China, where the Chinese government requires a visa in a Chinese citizen's passport prior to leaving to be permitted to board the plane.

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Forums > Living in Kunming > Kunming-Dali Highspeed Rail

Good question; I was wondering the same thing with the proposed Kunming-Vientiane (Laos) high speed railway that will also connect to Bangkok and eventually to Singapore via Malaysia. Construction was supposed to have started last year and be finished by 2015, but political troubles and resistance in Thailand for the Thai-leg of the project, the Wenzhou crash, corruption concerns and heavily indebted government that is no longer able to borrow as easily from local banks have all (likely, since I'm not sure) put the brakes on that and the Dali project, at least for now.

I think the Dali project makes more sense than the Lao one for the time being (and should be a priority); it will be a long time before all the missing connections are made and political issues overcome in the case of the latter, so instead of only 3 years, it might take 10 years before we can expect to travel between SE Asia and Kunming, and the rest of China via high-speed rail.

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Forums > Travel Yunnan > Kunming to Ubon Ratchathani (Thailand) and most of all: back

Myanmar, not likely at the moment, though with the current political situation there looking very positive, it may just be possible that the country opens up quite quickly. Right now it should be possible to travel from Thailand through Myanmar up to close to the Chinese border and then back again, but not as a transit country at this time.

Through Laos, go through the only international border crossing at Boten/Mohan (for the time being, although another crossing in northern Phongsali province may open in 2012) and then any one of the many crossings between Laos and Thailand (for example, friendship bridge 1 between Vientiane and Nong Khai) or alternatively, Chong Mek near Ubon. There are plenty of buses from Ubon that with connections will eventually get you back to Kunming. For example, you could try an Ubon to Udon Thani bus, then a cross-border Udon to Vientiane bus, connecting to the Vientiane-Kunming cross-border bus (although that's a long haul). Even longer would be Ubon-Pakse (cross-border bus) then Pakse-Vientiane and finally Vientiane-Kunming, or alternatively, Vientiane-Luang Prabang (by minivan) followed by Luang Prabang-Kunming (still a long-haul by bus). Another option would be to get yourself to Jinghong in Sipsongbanna to break the journey and from there it's easy to get back to Kunming with hourly bus services.

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I'm surprised his car was still driveable and didn't end up with a zillion dents (or maybe it did). I wouldn't dare drive like that knowing that damaging my car is almost certain if I were to attempt that and secondly I have more regard for the safety of pedestrians than this bozo did.

Still, this was an entertaining piece of news.

Yep...though I'm more used to getting hassled than ignored. I thought we were all walking atms to these guys! Haha...anyway, it really depends though, because those taxi drivers that constantly pester you in places like Vietnam often rip you off, but if you go for the ones that are not specifically looking for fares they'll actually use the meters. Of course, taxis are better than motorcycle taxis though since they are less likely to rip you off. Also, you can almost always find a taxi or something else when you need one in those countries, even during rush hour. Something that's hard to do in Kunming and even Shanghai...

Also, apart from the occassional three-wheeled scooter or electric scooter driver willing to drive you somewhere, there are few alternative forms of transport in Kunming apart from the standard forms you'd see in the west: buses and taxis (and eventually, a subway). Only on the outskirts of town will you find motorcycle taxis who congregate around tourist spots such as the Nationalities Village, but these guys don't pick up fares inside town, probably because they aren't allowed to, I presume.

What i find that's totally bizarre to me is that in a developing country like China, no taxi driver follows a foreigner like would happen in neighboring Vietnam, Thailand, Cambodia or elsewhere. In those countries, you don't look for the taxis, they look for you! In Kunming and China in general, you can walk down the street and no taxi driver will ever stop for you unless you want them to.

Tell the people to look at the signs and see what their reaction is! If they don't react, tell them that they can't read (which is what I would assume, if someone was just so oblivious to a sign right above their head).

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What do you mean by "foreigners"? Everyone who is a non-citizen of Myanmar and wants to travel there is a foreigner. I doubt Burmese citizens require visas to return to their homeland.

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Horrible tasteless, thick-crusted "cardboard" like pizzas that are a far cry from what they should be like. Way overpriced too. Wine may be good, but why bother when the nearby Prague Cafe makes much better pizza at a more reasonable price?

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Great Mexican food and ice cream, excellent Raspberry smoothies and an overall good atmosphere. Can't do much about the low ceilings on the second floor, but the early closing time could be adjusted, after all, the nearby French Cafe closes at 1am.