Sorry Danmairen if I offended you. My intention is not to group all foreigners together and say we shouldn't do that. My intention is to highlight to the occasional foreigner who thinks this way that, as a foreigner community in an Asian country, we do not condone sexually aggressive behaviour and that such acts have a tendency to reflect badly on all of us.

I agree with you, blobbles
From the video,that English guy seems pretend laying on the ground,what a good way to protect himself.
Cheers those Beijing ren help the chinese girl out,what a pity not cut him penis down!

BLobbles,

1st, Sorry to sound harsh, but I think on this topic you do deserve it a bit, no offense.

You have no idea what my attitude or views about the situation of laowai in China are, except that I don't think there is a pending catastrophe. For all you know, I am even more sensitive to the xenophobia that we face than you are. The bigger the problem, the more wrong what you wrote was.

What you do or should know, is that I believe that copying the logic of xenophobia is not the answer and is hypocritical and counterproductive.
I am not sure how, after my last post, you can still fail to see that.

I think it is because you might think that laowai are a concerted force, or some kind of social class, therefore you believe that other laowai represent you, so you agree with the xenophobes about how things work. You just part ways with them to the extent that you want them to know that not everybody in your organization likes our current policy. But there is no organization and there is no policy. Did the rapist scream "In the name of all laowai, I will now attack" before he commenced his assault?

I am not only saying that "I" or "you" personally have not done bad things to "Asians". I am saying that historical crimes are really not the real reasons for xenophobia, as they are absolutely cherry picked and manipulated. And, that those crimes are done by certain groups, armies, and administrations who share material interests/goals, not by all people who simply share non-chineseness. In fact those foriegn groups often also did some crimes upon many of us outside of china as well. So, on this point, there is no "we".

The headlines: really? The US soldier one is totally not xenophobic by itself. I didn't read the article. Unless it talks about how, because this will effect all foreigners in Korea, and rightly so, the soldier should get life in jail, then it doesn't compare to what you wrote.

The new york cops are cops form new york-it is a statement of fact, and they represent a concerted professional organization with unilateral, publicly stated goals and policies, that is legally accountable for its actions. What does that have to do with this topic? Again there is no such laowai organization. The other links didn't work for me. If the question is, is the media (of many and perhaps all lands) often xenophobic? The answer is a yes.

You are caught in a deadlock because you want to be treated fairly, and not seen in a black and white manner, but since that is not forthcoming, you think that embracing the same logic that you object to will somehow get you closer to a practical stance. That is why I am calling you an uncle tom here. How could I call you an uncle tom if I don't think xenophobia is a real and big problem?

I am just totally sick of the "good laowai, bad laowai" dogma that every single xenophobe in china covers themselves with, and it is just as bad when you use it. Check the history of these forums, almost every time a local xenophobe comes on for the purpose of berating foreigners, they always play the same tune of the good laowai compared to the bad laowai, but everyone can still read the venom between the lines.

Every single Chinese born friend I have would never think to connect me to this incident, anymore than I connect them to anti-black marches in Nanjing that happened. They would consider my finger pointing at this Beijing laowai incident to be a cowardly attempt to ingratiate myself to people (xenophobes) who are simply not worth knowing, and who some Chinese people also find frightening.

I know I am not polite, and sorry for that, but I am clearheaded, and I can clarify any aspects of what I have written if asked. If enough others disagree with what I have written, I will reply to them when I get free time, if asked (I doubt anyone cares), and maybe you can read those replies if they interest you.

One thing I forgot to say is, since there are a million "good" things done by laowai in China, people who go nuts only about the bad things that they choose to focus on, things done also by locals, are not rational people.

You cant win by playing their game and insisting on the importance of these events. The only long term strategy is- "I didn't do that, my friends didn't do that, most people everywhere wouldn't do that, both Chinese and laowai bad guys sometimes do that, but I am doing good things". If that doesn't work, you are hanging with the wrong people, and there really is nothing more that you can do.

I think the whole issue is addressed improperly & it has blown out of proportions.

Tell me the name of the country where rape doesn't happens or its not reported, according to the statistics, about one woman is raped each minute at least in this world, the number could be more.

Rape whether its done by localities or the foreigners is a heinous crime & it should be condemned to all possible levels.

Castigating that only foreigners do wrong or weird things in China is totally unacceptable and NO one is pious saint in this world.

The whole world is changing & we have to admit that as we progress, we have to deal with crime.

But the pertinent question still remains is that, how can we reduce such untoward incidents done by any foreigner in any foreign land.

Let me tell you, charity begins from home and if we change, surely the whole world will change.

I am sorry to write that its really unrealistic that foreigners only do weird things in China,what about Chinese people, dont they do weird things in foreign countries??

I do not condone the actions of the idiot in Beijing. But things are getting blown out of proportion. There is no RAPE. As far as I am aware there is no attempted rape. There is only the arrest for sexual assault. The netizens baying for blood are demanding a charge of attempted rape. Do we give in to the mob?

This incident is feeding a nationalist fervour. This is about the only thing that scares me in China right now. But that is a different topic.

I would find it intolerable being in a position, so insecure, that I felt compelled to jump on the Internet and publicly disassociate myself from every crime perpetrated by an individual, one of billions, who like me just happened to be non-Chinese. It would be as absurd as having to apologise for every rape committed by a man simply because the crime was committed by an individual, who like me just happened to be non-female.
As for dragging the hapless caricature that is 'Gao Xing' into this, well, if 'he' is real, then I find it bordering on contemptible to associate him directly with the hideous crime of rape.

Hi, I'm a Chinese girl I am using the account of my friend because I want to talk to blobbles,
you should say to the family of your gf that this guy is very bad but he doesn't represent the laowai in china, generally most foreigners are good and respect china, chinese law and culture so it's not fair to have prejudices about the all laowais.
In China also Chinese guys do things like that, even worse like raping and killing after. No matter who you are, foreigner or chinese, if somebody does something like that he deserves to be punished.

@ robertos's friend

At the end of the day, people (the world over) have preconceived notions. People tend to look for information to back up their beliefs. Firmly held beliefs, especially if based on ignorance, can be unshakable.

I someone does not like the idea of a daughter dating outside of the recognised social group (race, colour, creed, social class, economic group) they will look for reasons to oppose. They will not see or want to hear other views.

@harriss, Chinese people do the weirdest things in China, certainly not westerners or other foreigners! What about all the parents allowing their children to take a piss or a crap in a supermarket in the nappy (diaper) section!!! Hello....buy a freaking nappy (diaper)!

But anyway, I digress...