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Chinese family wants do adopt my son

kunming tiger (28 posts) • 0

Sorry to disappoint you Lao Tou but in exchange for the return of my belongings and valuables and an assurance that they would respect my home and not approach me or contact me without my consent the police dropped all charges and considered the matter closed. If they hadn't consented to these conditions the police would have charged them on all counts.

The court matter concerned their Plan B which was to petition for a divorce based claims of excessive abuse, harrassment and cultural differences etc and a healthy financial settlement into the bargain. As I argued in court the claims had no basis in fact their arguments didn't hold any water and a cash settlement was out of the question. Cash in exchange for withdrawing their petition so I wanted to contest it in court . That would have delayed the proceedings by months and she was under pressure to settle the matter at once by her family.

In return for no financial settlement, no admission of wrongdoing I agreed to an immediate divorce as the court officials advised both parties.

I agree with outsider, talk about muddling the waters and mean don't mix the abstract with the real. With people we are talking about character, people of good character do good things and people of bad character do bad things how could you possibly tell what kind of person lives in a house from the type of Chinese characters he hangs of his front door.

Facts speak lounder than words judge a man from his achievements or deeds and intentions.

Lylian logic is purely inductive based on the laws of probability that says it if it is true for most of the people then it should be considered true for all of the people including those we don't actually know. It's a presumption eg all Chinese men between 20 and 25 have black hair, that's true for 99.99% of men that not for 100% of men. But it is interpreted as 100% of Chinese men have black hair that statement is simply not true.

Our logic is deductive based on known facts, from what we know to be true the following can be deduced as certain

Fact: stealing and fraud is against the law.

Fact: The police have arrested and the court has convicted person A of stealing, fraud and embezzlement.

Conclusion: Person A has a criminal record, a history of commiting illegal acts. Person A is a convicted criminal.

Inductive reasoning is not wrong or false reasoning but should only be applied in the absence of facts, experiences and stats deductive arguments in other words not as a replacement for them.

Inductive reasoning often descends into generalizations, sterotypes and false premises applying fixed rules or conventions instead of dealing with things case by case, looking for specifics .

rejected_goods (349 posts) • 0

Hi lylian,
It is good to have your input.
I believe, culture in its basic form does not come from thin air, it is actually an art of survival ( agriculture, nomadic, hunter gatherer...etc are the basic ingredient) for a group/class of people, and social learning that enables an individual to function in that group/class. While "Buddhism (with chinese characteristics) or Taoism or Confucius "you just mentioned in your post, are 'culture' that are considered tools for symbolic thinking in social engineering/reengineering. :-)

In china, the mass exodus of working age adult leaving behind young children to earn a living, from rural area to cities, is a phenomenon unseen of in history, in a largely agriculture-based china. I sincerely hope this form of survival (a condition rather) is not developing into a new 'culture.'

Regarding filial piety, interpretation of that notion varies a lot. Confucius teachings also has it "父母在不遠遊." So it is a bit like 'christian value' in the 'west,' it is both easy and not easy to assign 'value.' :-)

laotou (1714 posts) • 0

KM Tiger
I figured as much. In the USA, upon request, the judge will issue a restraining order. This has as much restraining power value as used toilet paper.

Sounds like the family found another target for the daughter to prey on, but good for you - sticking to your guns. I'm glad to hear another case of reasonable fair justice from both the police and the court system.

Master Shake (20 posts) • 0

I've stood idly by watching this car wreck unfold for too long.

This is an internet forum thread, and yet, for some reason, it reads more like a polite and rational discussion about culture, society and a bunch of other boring mumbo-jumbo.

Where's the vitriol, the gall, the hate? Why has nobody been called a knob end yet?

Lylian (19 posts) • 0

Thanks rejected_goods,

Many people here are giving advice how to meet the war, but I am thinking of how to save the marriage. I believe in most cases divorce is the last thing people should do if they have kids. Nobody will win from it and the kid would be hurt most.

xiaohan (1 post) • 0

Don't let chinese rise Your son!!! as Swedish citizen he has right get good education, health care and everything....those things are impossible in PRC. Whatever says your wife, she definitely understand PRC system can not compete with Swedish.

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