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redjon777 (560 posts) • -1

@Tiger He me might not of been in charge when either war was started but he did think himself a major player and pushed for it when it came to a war situation. Showing his fancy for war in WW1 put this across and maybe showed some he wasn't quite the bright spark he imagined. How else are you going to get that 'british bulldog' rep and help win wars though? A few fat boy digs won't change his rep lol

@spartans nothing to do with the article though as tiger said ;o)

Couldn't resist adding a few more non relating words to the post lol

@Spartans you're comment 'now full of Muslims who are outbreeding them' is never a problem in countries like Britain or USA.

Usually them children that are born in an open society where as their parents came from a more tightly controlled religious society grow with that open view. Future generations then don't see that strong religious influence in the family if they even carry on the practice of following the religion.
Everyone is able to live side by side and even integrate with no problems, it's just when an immigration wave happens, scaremongering is played out by a lot of people. Your sentence an example of this!

I like the film 'Gangs of New York' showing this, though I know it's not a 100% history lesson it shows racial scaremongering very clearly.

Napoleon (1187 posts) • -3
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@Spartans

Churchil wasn't in power until 1940. I think that absolves him from starting at least the second world war.

What we should be thankful for was the English bringing their Englishness to their corners of the globe in the form of things like railways and healthcare, things some countries have built on and progressed, some past Britain itself, and that some counties have squandered and become bitter about.

Unfortunately that's nothing to do with 'current' generations of Brits, arrogant, hate filled, funless, pastey snobs filled with propaganda long out of date.

If any country should know about mixing relegions and races it should be Britain, where catholics hate prodistants and Gaelics hate Anglo Saxons. You would have thought that it would be enough without inviting more into the fold.

If that wasn't enough, places like Zimbabwe should be used as examples of what the outcome is to racial experiments.

Napoleon (1187 posts) • 0

Today, as India and China have shown, people are power. It creates a market of consumers that businesses want, while creating competition for jobs, and wages low.

That's why businesses were running out to China, India etc but gave places like Bhutan a wide birth.

What this refugee crisis allows Britain to do, is strengthen itself with people, for the hear and now, ignoring the future.

Having lost its world stage, sold off its businesses and struggling to compete with the new up and comers, places that Europe considered inferior in the days of empire, its had to launch a plan B.

That seems to be to drain people and talent from weaker places to make sure those places remain weak and cannot compete with Europe.

This is why immigrants are coming from places like Morocco, Bangladesh and Congo. Theyre not coming from Australia, UAE or Brazil as once they may have, as these places have since left Europe in the shade and their populations can enjoy a better standard of living at home than they may abroad.

Britain has an NHS which actively tries to attract doctors and nurses from developing countries for its own system. Keeping the populations of places like Zimbabwe chronically short of people specialised in medicine.

In places like Ghana, Nigeria and Egypt the British actively offer immigration programmes for entrepreneurs, taking employment and talent from areas where it is desperately needed.

In Africa Europe has a continent that it can sell a dream to right on its doorstep. The Europeans helped themselves to Africa's rubber, to Africa's hardwood and to Africa's minerals. Now its after its people AGAIN!

All of this comes at a short term gain, long term cost. Some people have a larger pool of tenants to rent their second properties, rent goes up. Some people have a larger pool of employees to chose from, salaries go down. Some people find that Europe is not paved with gold, but a place far from home filled with bigotry, unemployment and a hard life. Some people are blown up at pop concerts and some people run over at Christmas markets. The problems of the last two groups go unsolved while the first two groups are making money.

That is until the situation reaches a tipping point, which may not be in our lifetimes, but when has Europe ever worried about future generations. Until then migrants and working class locals suffer in Europe while Africans as always are exploited again. All of Europe's Macrons and Bob Geldoffs won't be able to sell this situation forever. People in working class neighbourhoods of Europe and Africans in positions of power are starting to catch on.

It seems to be the new colonialism, except now

Africans bring themselves to Europe. The aim, as we can see in Redjons post, may still be the same, you're not as good as us, but come here and you're children could be Europeans. Africans have heard all that before.

Dazzer (2813 posts) • +1

uncle bob has done more to frack up zim than brits ever could. nappy boy being a class act in hatful dribbling

Alien (3819 posts) • 0

@Spartans: which other Chinese cities offer almost double the average salaries o Kunming with much cheaper rent? I'm not aware that rent in Kunming is particularly expensive, but then there are a lot of things I don't know.

redjon777 (560 posts) • -1

Hail the African preacher!
You take a soft point and try make more of it than needed...

'Unfortunately that's nothing to do with 'current' generations of Brits, arrogant, hate filled, funless, pastey snobs filled with propaganda long out of date.'

My point was more along the lines of not whether to come or not, but if they do come it's not as big a problem for Europe as some European citizens are shouting about. It's just another migration to add to the many throughout the world in many thousands of years previously in history.

SA Smith (6 posts) • +1

@Napoleon

It was a nice thought and a pleasant surprise to hear the African perspective for once. Refreshing given some of the anti-African rubbish usually given a platform on here.

Nothing to do with if Kunming is or is not a nice place to live though. Things seem to have gone way off track on this topic.

Peter99 (1246 posts) • -6
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Be careful not to get too much off the topic in the discussion, as Alien is observing the discussion.

GoK Moderator (5096 posts) • +1

One aspect of rent that really sucks here is landlords demanding 12 months rent in advance. Some people say some landlords only asking for 6 months (which i have never seen personally). That is a major barrier for many people on teacher's pay, when thinking of coming here. Kunming is the only city where I have seen this practice.

Stratocaster (161 posts) • 0

@tigertiger 6-12 months' rent in advance? Really? Why would anyone submit to that just to live in Kunming? (Unless of course rent is really cheap there.)

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