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Your overall China/Kunming experience?

The Dudeson's (1106 posts) • 0

@mickey
Thanks for your sympathy. It has been good the last 2 years, just verbal aggression so far. I hope that will last a little longer. :)

One-Hit Wonder (89 posts) • 0

My overall experience has been mostly negative due to corrupt and incompetent employers.

AlPage48 (1394 posts) • 0

My overall experience is mixed - in some things I miss Canada, while other things are actually better here.

Others have witnessed violence, but I've only seen that twice since 2007 and it was Chinese against Chinese.

There have been many break-ins in our community, but not in our home, but in Toronto I suffered that fate 3 times over.

Yes, some people throw their garbage anywhere - same back home.

Drivers annoy me. I don't like some of the rules to begin with, then I don't like the fact that the rules are ignored, then not enforced.

Health care is a major issue for me on both sides of the planet. Doctors here seem to be focused on doing anything that results in increased fees. They've wanted to admit me as an inpatient to administer medicine once a day - not necessary. On the other hand when I did have a major problem I only waited 20 minutes to be seen by a surgeon, then a few days to surgery. In Toronto it was 2 weeks to see a surgeon (that's emergency) and 3 months to surgery. Canada may have "better" health care, but what good is that if you can't get access to it. Back in Canada (Ontario), the government is focused on reducing health-care costs, and they do this by de-listing services that are covered by the provincial health care plan.

I'm not fond of the over-spiced food, but I've grown a tolerance to it and now actually find western food to be a bit bland. I really don't like Sichuan food, but absolutely loved what I found in Guiyang and I have a preference for Cantonese style.

My (Chinese) wife and a lot of Chinese friends notice a difference in behavior between "city" people and "rural" people and usually note that the majority of people with rude behavior, spitting, cutting into lines or throwing garbage are those who have been uprooted from their traditional homes and dumped in the city.

Liumingke1234 (3297 posts) • 0

My experience has been good. I feel more relaxed. Sure there a things that annoys me at time but what place doesn't have things and people that are annoying. If you were to ask me where do you prefer to live I would say right here. This is my new home. So people attract bad things to happen to them and I don't understand it. To me there is something to the 'laws of attraction'. @Dudeson Sorry you have had many bad things happen to you. I've been here for 10 years and thank God I haven't had that kind of stuff happen to me. I believe some people are unlucky, very unlucky, lucky and very lucky. Maybe you are at the wrong time and places too many times. Maybe your out of line with the universe but if I were you I'd be very careful. We all give out 'vibes' knowingly or unwittingly. I hope that your 'luck' will turn around. Anyway, as I said it's been a nice ride so far.

goldie122 (645 posts) • 0

Nobody said you caused it, dudeson . I guess you and your friends are in the wrong place at the wrong times, all the time.

But I did ask why you are here since most of what you say about China is not great. Surely you are here by choice?

zhudan (204 posts) • 0

I am in a time where I am trying to change my viewpoint on China despite my often negative comments here. I am doing volunteer work and even get out at night and do group exercises with the elderly people in my apartment complex. My Chinese is and will always be abysmally poor but I am still trying to improve it on it a low level at least.

One issue I have with foreigners who try to play the " cultural difference" card in response to any complaint by a fellow whitey (if we are honest we are taking about white people from North America here for the most part here) is that not all Chinese people engage in these vile disgusting behaviors they (meaning the self righteous Matt Millers of the world) dismiss as cultural differences, as if nobody else but they themselves is not aware of that already. Not all Chinese people hock up huge balls of phlegm and spit it all over the side walk, nor do they approve of it. Not all Chinese people cut lines nor do they approve of it. Not all Chinese people pick their noses in public for minutes at a time nor do they approve of it or call it some belief propagated by the primitive, voodoo based practice of TCM. If holding one nostril with a finger and blowing out a wad of snot onto a restaurant floor was in fact simply an aspect of a total cultural difference all Chinese people would be doing it all the time. They all do not.

If by cultural difference one means the manners and habits of filthy uneducated pigs then I am in agreements, since that is the type of person who engages in that type of behaviors. Only a pig and the culture of filth it exists in as a member blows snot out of his or her nose in a restaurant or let's their kid crap anywhere the little brat wants and then leaves the pile of rancid poop for someone else to clean up. Plenty of Chinese are disgusted and embarrassed by the behaviors of these pigs but one cannot reason with a brutish animal of lower evolutionary status.

Only people ashamed of their own culture and background with the last name Miller would not be offended by this sort of vile behavior and defend it even and say things like how much worse it actually is in other places like the evil empire known as the United States of America.

mickeyh (119 posts) • 0

Yeah sorry, but wrong person, again. I am defending *some* of that behavior based on TCM and culture, but not all of it. I agree that it is inexcusable to poop in a restaurant or hock a booger on someone's food, etc. I am talking about the general principle of releasing waste from the body as soon as possible.

And you clearly have some negative vibes. I sincerely hope you do not also attract horrible things like Dudesons. And I am not being sarcastic, facetious, or anything like that. I agree with the law of attraction. If you walk around constantly angry, offended, and hostile, you ARE going to attract things like that. If you are positive and try to enjoy life, your life will be better.

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